I have two huge reasons I don’t have a guild I do anything with.
First, the thought of going back on a schedule has a “job” feeling for me. I don’t want to be tied to my PC for 2-3 hours 2 nights a week. A lot of times I am anyway but during delves I’ll tab out and watch a video or walk away just to move around my house a bit.
Second, I just absolutely cannot commit to one single class. I can’t do it. I thought I’d be able to do it with my lock here in S2 but the more I played it the more I find I don’t enjoy the playstyle anymore. I’ve bounced between my DH (new favorite right now), monk (highly enjoy), paladin (consistently solid), mage (losing interest because they’re just SUPER SQUISHY), and DK (failing interest, playstyle doesn’t click much anymore).
My guuild has been functionally dead for years. I’m one of 2 people who still logs in fairly regularly. I think the reason I don’t find another guild is because of the bonds I had with the people here and the vague hope that one day we can all play together again (though it is very unlikely).
My last experience with “modern” guilds, has been that they are extremely “clicky”. There are too many clicks within a guild and if you don’t belong to a click, you’re pretty much solo all the same.
It’s the same little group of 4-5 people that play other games outside of WoW, which I have no interest in, and the same click of people that set the raiding schedule to their needs.
I have been in too many guilds that are great players, but the moment the top officers get their AoTC or CE, they immediately drop for the rest of the patch leaving everyone else hanging until the next content.
Nothing is worse than having to pug while having a guild. Not a fan of that dynamic.
IMO the days of constantly active guilds are far, far gone. I don’t see the point of being in a guild that is “active” 2 months every six months.
My Personal Goal as Casual is not that high. PuGing is enough for me. And besides, I find Casual Guilds need me more than I would need them. KSM and AoTC is doable just with Dungeon Finder. I think it’s working for me.
Absolutely this. Group that is already established will sit in voice and not talk unless they need something. Guild will all want to run content a certain day and low and behold, a time is chosen that the “group” wants even if the majority picks something else.
The first guild I was in was great. Everyone got along, everyone ran content together. It was a good time. It fell apart and every guild since has never come close.
I was in a WONDERFUL guild in Legion (which is approaching TEN YEARS OLD now…) from start to finish. Once we wrapped up Antorus and quite a few weeks after to get others their AotC the guild leader and raid leader quit and never returned.
I tried a few guilds in BFA and they were like you described. Very cliquey and you just seemed like a cog in the machine. I did try once more at the very start of SL. It was quite a large guild and decent banter on discord. I thought I might be able to find a place there and LITERALLY OVER NIGHT the guild fell apart because 2 or 3 of the top dps left for another guild. Didn’t even try to stay together. The officers just nope’d out and put up a message that said “guild’s dead if you want to stay you can but no more raiding or M+”. It was absolutely insane to me and I’ve not tried since then.
How often do you get into fail groups? Is it common your time is wasted finding groups or getting into fail groups?
I’m having a heck of a time finding one that does the content I want at the times i need.
Raid guilds aren’t satisfied stopping at aotc and I don’t want to do mythic. A lot of casual guilds lack focus and screw around during raid too much. I need something later because bf works late evenings(like, 9 EST start time).
Cliques are annoying, but I get it. I miss my guild from Legion to SL. AotC only, non nonsense, good progression. Raid lead/guild lead burnt out having done it since MoP and it fell apart.
Blizzard’s in game tool for finding a guild is completely useless and might as well not even exist. For as much as they have pushed group content over the years (now with delves it does seem to have a bit of solo focus as well) you’d think they’d at least try to give players the tools to connect better.
