What stats / 15 characters

Classes Warrior
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As a fury warrior what should I be stacking haste or crit?

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You have to sim it.

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I no just looking for a base % of stats I should be aiming for

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It is going to change depending on your actual gear, your skill / trait selection, and your playstyle. But here’s a baseline for you.

++https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pve-dps-stat-priority++

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Well, you asked what you should stack not what % you should be aiming for.

But to that question there isn’t any set percent to aim for.

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People always default to ‘sim it’… it’s really annoying.

Sims have their place, but for general questions about general stats, from what I been reading, go for haste priority, mastery secondary. For exact amounts? That’s when I’d say to do a quick raidbots sim of your character as you are gearing up. It will give you a decent ballpark understanding.

See? Wasn’t so hard to answer.

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Almost like a simulation program, that runs 10 thousand + iterations of a fight, is far, far more accurate and reliable than any jaggoff on the interwebs, including myself.

See, you’re right but you’re wrong. Hence, Top Gear on Raidbots.

Well yeah. Two people already answered him. You just didn’t like their answer because “myah, sims er evil and techno babble” come off it mate.

No such thing.

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True, however it’s pretty easy to give somebody a general idea of which stats they should be looking for. ilvl of course always makes a big difference and so too can trait choices.

The first thing I always do with a fresh 120 is just grab anything that’ll boost my ilvl to a decent level, then I begin the hunt and selective gearing process. My method may not be the same as everyone’s, but I tend to be a solo player without frieeeennnsss, or I’d just do M+ instead.

Again, it’s a ballpark answer, without the ‘I won’t help you because you’re too lazy to sim it’ air people exude these days.

Again, it’s a general question and received a general answer by me. Seems to me that people have their mob mentality of ‘I’ll give you an answer that’s also a non-answer and who cares if you’re a new person to the game/class etc’.

Not everyone knows of all these third party sites. It takes a mere moment to give the general idea of what a person should look for AND THEN offer up the sim option as the better alternative. The dude posted on a character that’s not 120, so simming a character below that would be a waste of time. He’s clearly trying to select secondaries that would help him out before he can get to a simming point in the road.

I don’t understand why people insist on being so dismissive or vague. It’s pretty counter productive.

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Why are you all arguing about this I gave the guy his answer.

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For real I just mained switched to fury an was curious if there were certain break points an what other fury warriors tended to stack jeez no reason to argue.

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These days, that’s essentially the only route. Get ilvl ups, and look for sockets. The only things that typically break the ilvl boundaries are rings, sockets, and trinkets. Personal Loot is such a blessing.

I view it from an entirely different perspective.

The amount of work put in to guides and sims is, to put it lightly, staggering. And extremely time consuming. It’s not exactly a lucrative job, either. So from my perspective of it, it’s seemingly disrespectful to just ignore all that work.
Someone asks a question, like about stats, you answer, and that’s the end of it. They go on their way, look for haste+mastery gear, and think no more into it.

I tell a guy, sim your gear, and show him top gear, he asks what it is, and how does he use it. I show him. Now, he can use those resources, and can answer the question himself, with true accuracy, and without having to ask anyone for help. Teach a man to fish.

I’d rather give someone a half answer and see their reaction. Some people will, feel put out, and go no further. They’re not worth helping.

Others will implore further, and push to learn. They’ll ask questions. They’re worth the time to teach.

Because it’s easier to form a discussion off a real basis rather than just giving a mass explanation to everyone who asks, and it separates people who want to learn from people who are curious.

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Fair enough.

Thing is so many people just tend to copy what they see rather then experiment. I kinda miss the days of experimenting lol.

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Math is King, that’s usually why experimentation falls to the wayside.

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I usually try to blanket answer the question with “general priority is stack X/Y. Go for Z if you need AoE, but for accurate numbers you need to sim”

I’m only just starting to play fury now though and I’ve seen some decent stat variations based on gear and traits. If it were arms I’d just say go haste and crit if you’re being simple about it.

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Experimentation is done via sims if anything.

The problem with trying to experiment in the game is that you’re trying something out once, twice, or maybe a hundred times if you’re thorough and that’s not what most players will accept as adequate data. That’s also ignoring the fact of how you performed the test and how well you performed the rotation. I have an old saying about mocking cold hard recount data since once upon a time someone stated they were going to use just that over sims.

I get some people want to say “who cares what the sims said, I went against it and am performing better!” but we have no way of pinpointing why that’s happening or if it’s just a fluke. The only reason to go against the math of sims is when the math is sound but it’s not likely that you’ll be able to play properly by following it, this is usually talent or trinket related where something is mathematically superior but A) not enough to warrant it and/or B) the other option is almost as competitive and doesn’t run the risk of butchering your DPS if you don’t do it right.

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The thing is, people experimenting? I am, to this day, quite sure that, for example, incidents of “impossible” bosses prior to say, Mists, were actually possible. It’s just that, nothing was actually optimized.

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I have a lot of haste. Now crit sim higher than haste. Tell me which guide will tell you to get crit on fury warrior? None. Guide for stat value are garbage and you should take the 15 second it take to sim your char.

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Actually the Icy-Veins guide currently says to go for Crit first :<

SORRY

Edit: Well, in a way. It assumes you have a Cold Steel, Hot Blood trait.

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But once again, that is not correct. You dont GO FOR CRIT first ever. You have a balance of haste mastery and crit to maintain. The only thing that will always remain is vers should remain 4th always.

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I was being more facetious than anything :wink: