What is the biggest atrocity the Alliance has committed?

False. The Horde broke the treaty back in Ashran. Next excuse?

Ashran is just about has canon has Warsong gultch.

Nice try though

The orcs didn’t have control of themselves. That was due to purely of demonic bloodlust. Most of the old orc veterans have PTSD because of it. See saurfang talking to Garrosh in the Borean Tundra and he will tell you the horror they experienced.

Actually I will save you the trouble

Hey now - its blood elf appreciation month. We dont tolerate that bigotry in 2019

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Proof that Ashran isn’t canon? The storyline very much makes it apparent that the Horde broke the treaty in Ashran.

Also WSG is canon. It was a territory fight between NEs and Orcs in Vanilla. Just because you can still do it doesn’t mean its not canon. I can do Molten Core at 120

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The war in Ashenvale was certainly canon, but heroes from both sides capturing a flag isn’t.

The story never explained the horde broke the treaty. It’s was a pvp zone with 0 canon and was done for fun. It’s why they never went into any detail of the artifact they fought for. If that broke it then they would have never teamed up at Broken Shore, just like when they didn’t against the demons of outland, just like they didn’t in Ulduar, and just like they didn’t in ICC

They weren’t exactly fighting in the field among each other brothers in arms. One side fought at one area, another fought elsewhere. Either way you have nothing but opinions to back your “Ashran wasn’t canon” excuse, whereas lore shows the Horde initiating conflict, this breaking the peace treaty, in Ashran. By all means if you have something beyond opinion to back your claim Im all ears.

Hey hey, the civilians were throwing trade goods at us.

No but in ICC they stopped fighting the scourge and started fighting each other

In Outlands both sides gave you a quest to repair the catapults so they could continue fighting each other.

If ashran was seriously canon than tell me, who won? Because the horde won Alterac Valley, it’s why the stormpikes are still trying to capture Alterac when the zones were redone.

The war in Arathi still goes on, which is why there is a warfront.

And whos to say how things would have gone had the battle not gone into a full scale retreat when your WC died to a trash mob? Had the Broken Shore gone differently we very well might have had open conflict between Alliance and the team that loses to trash mobs. The argument that things didn’t go exactly the same as previous conflicts is pretty weak, considering that event gave no breathing room for said conflict to occur. I hope after BFA concludes and we have another peace treaty that the Horde don’t go and immediately break said treaty once again.

Standing by doing nothing while my home burned. At least the Worgen stand with the Night Elves. You Draeni are our closest neighbors and you didn’t bother to come :frowning:

And the war in Legion may have gone differently if your king didn’t get disenchanted by Gul’dan. Please the alliance will always be the ones to break the peace because they will always be blinded by revenge.

Except once again, lore shows that Horde broke the treaty not Alliance, and your opinion based arguments that hold no weight in comparison to the storyline have yet to show otherwise. Horde really should stop breaking peacetime treaties like they had done in WoD

Actually Alliance has the Highborne Elves again and if decedents of Highborne count, then what about the Draenei who are directly related to the heads of the legion on brought the orcs to the legion’s attention.

Except you have yet to shown that ashran is canon. Also to note, if there was no ceasefire ageement between horde and the alliance after WoD, then why did Anduin gave Genn specfic Intructuins to not fire at the horde unless they felt threatened? If they were at War then Genn should have every right to fire at the horde first at Stormheim.

Why would Genn offer the Forsaken to be safe if they surrendered Sylvanas? Because Genn was blinded by revenge because his son took a shot met for him.

I like to imagine Draenei were mopping up the last of the Legion and didn’t get back in time.

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not patting my head

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Its not on me to prove that parts of the game and storyline, that is clearly explained within the game, is canon.

As for Anduin telling Horde not to attack, it might have a lot to do with Anduin being an overall pacifist character. Once again, The Herd broke the peace treaty, as outlined within the lore inside the game, and Genn, while advised not to attack the Lich Queen, was still within reason to do so.

Come back with facts please.

I’m sorry, I must have missed that. Could you please direct me to where that took place?

The Alliance also fired on a boat load of civilians while trying to hide the fact they captured Thrall, a member of the Earthen Ring during Cata.

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