That was after the fact he defeated the plan to turn Strat into an army of undead. Mal’ganus retreated to Northrend. Now Mal’ganus did know that Arthas would become the Lich King, because the Lich King had a premonition about Arthas, but as we have seen those things can be changed.
We saw in Wow that Deathwing would win by what the Time Dragons have shown us. We changed that.
Time travel can change premonitions.
Damn straight!
ALSO don’t forget about the miners! #neverforget
Well you just used Sylvanas reasoning for starting the faction war. The Alliance was getting stronger and collecting Azerite. The Alliance lost their strong High King, now lead by the boy king. It was just a matter of time before the Alliance could wipe out The Horde.
I am fairly sure if I remember my WC3 that the LK was using Mal’ganus the entire time to get Arthus to Northrend and that was the entire purpose behind it.
Except that was with the bronze’s interference as the infinite flight.
Uh, the alliance literally uses their new allied races as fodder to lure out the entire military presence out of the city. That’s literally how they were able to kill the king so easily. 
I don’t see Alliance as bad, but definitely whiny. Both sides have done some rather awful things to the other though, or in general.
I’d say another one is Genn essentially abandoning his own faction’s fight against the STRONGEST force known to the world that’s destroyed THOUSANDS of planets is invading just to attack a faction they’re allied with to STOP this invasion purely because of a personal vendetta.
Existing…
No I haven’t.
The Alliance did not know anything about Azerite, until they heard that the Horde were mining Azerite. You forget your own questline and you forget the cinematic at the end of the Burning Legion. Gallywix keeps sending goblins to Silithus and then shows Sylvy the Azerite piece. She then gets the idea of using Azerite to start a war, which she used to burn down Teldrassil.
The Horde were gathering Azerite first. Then the Alliance gets wind of a goblin mining force in Silithus. Then they decide to send recon unit to see what they are mining. Then we find they are mining a substance called Azerite. Then after seeing what it can do. We send a force to stop the Horde from trying to stop a upcoming war. Then the Horde start the war by using it on Teldrassil.
If that is not, how about Anduin? The son of the Wolf, that only shouts for peace. Then you have the scene in Lorderon, where even Sylvanas has mentioned that he only wants peace and she started the war.
Of course. Because Nez’zhul wanted to be free of the Legion. So, he saw the future that he would be imprisoned by the Legion and awaited for Arthas.
That is why I mentioned time dragons.
If the Bronze Flight had interfered with Arthas before or at Strat. Then he would not become the Lich King. That would changed the future. That is one reason we go into the past to stop the infinite dragons from changing the future.
I think dinosaurs are actually thriving more than most other animals on Azeroth, ironically. They’re all over the dang place.
Well, comparing what the Modern Alliance and Horde have done (the ones we are apart of post-WC3, and the ones we’re talking about) against one another:
Alliance
Capturing Thrall and attacking a (then) neutral goblin ship to prevent witness’
Camp Tarahjo(?) [Which wasn’t don’t by the Alliance directly, as it was done by conscripted criminals who escaped Alliance custody]
SoO (Which was a joint effort between both factions)
Genn Greymane’s attack on Horde forces in Stormheim (which was justified after the fact due to the Horde effectively attacking a group that was aiding us.)
The Battle for Lorderon(?)
The Battle of Dar’zalor
Horde
2 separate invasions of Ashenvale (which is considered Alliance territory) in both Vanilla and during the Cataclysm
Bombing a school for teaching Druidism ran by Night Elf’s (which also hosted Tauren)
Bombing Theramore
Attacking Gilneas and killing its rulers son, while also driving them out
Capturing Southshore
Burning Teldrassil after capturing it
Sacking Brennedam in Stormsong Valley
Do note I didn’t put the Purging of Dalaran since it’s a neutral city, and that smuggling the Divine Bell thru it breaks that neutrality, after which they primarily worked with the Alliance up until Legion.
Theirs probably some I missed, but pound for pound the Modern Horde has much more blood on their hands than the Modern Alliance does.
What transpired between the Alliance of Lorderon and the First Horde (I forget its technical name) does have bearing on racial grudges, but not so much on the factions as a whole.
Not sure what that has to do with the earlier claim about murdering civilians, or my reply to it.
The only point I have to disagree is the Dalaran one.
The Alliance stole the bell from the Mogu faction that was against the Horde and the Alliance. Then they hid it away from the Mogu. So, that does not break neutrality pact with Dalaran.
The purge had actually reasons behind it.
Oh, you mean for the genocidal orcs, that by all rights should have been wiped out considering they indiscriminately killed and burned civilizations unprovoked? Seems like that internment camps was a mercy if anything.
And redeemed themselves already, get over yourself.
Wrong, Kael’thas did unwittingly to the blood elf population. He wasn’t even considered their leader at the time.
Nah, they were created by an alliance person who slaughtered his own people to turn them into mind controlled zombies.
Uh, you realize the legion would have never been here if it wasn’t for the night elves and their people in the first place? They literally brought them here and no, it wasn’t JUST the night elves that beat them, all the dragon aspects had to get involved as well as many other races and demigods. At that point you could almost say they did the least amount of work for the victory…
Funny, tell that to a pro high elf for the alliance player, you’ll have a 3k response thread and over 15 people mass reporting you until you get silenced. 
Ooo, the night elves defended the world from an enemy THEY attracted here, good job guys! Maybe you never played WC3, but the whole thing even starts with medihv telling everyone to go west to Kalimdor. It wasn’t JUST the night elves.
False, they call a retreat because they had taken multiple casualties. If they wanted to just abandon the alliance, they could have without letting the alliance know and let them be overran. Pretending like they should have stayed after losing their leadership and retreating wasn’t the right all is just ignorant.
If they lure an entire military force out of the city, guess what’s left? Orphans and civilians!
The Horde used Dalaran’s portals to move the Divine Bell (which was effectively Alliance property) from Darnassus (A Alliance city) to Silvermoon (A Horde city).
The act of using Dalaran’s resources in a way that goes against its neutrality justifies a neutral faction attacking the Horde.
A IRL example could be if the US took weapons from a terrorist group, and then Russia stole them from the US via moving them thru Britain (a assumed neutral party). Kind of a bad example, but it gets the point across that using the goodwill of a another nation/state against one of its allies isn’t good.
I don’t know about you, but there are a ton of soldiers i have to kill to get to each boss, with the exception of a about 3 merchants. So actually it’s 99.9% soldiers and 0.1% civilians.
…Really? Someone actually has to explain this to you?
It’s almost as if in-game raids aren’t actual depictions of how the fight went on!