What is going on (again)?

[Radioblaze-sargeras (Radioblaze)]

Okay… So as of Friday. I know Pallys are extremely OP but I noticed something else.

Friday: Things seem normal… Finishing as my usual 1-4th in randoms. Always in the top 5 in damage. felt relatively equal to all the other classes except the mentioned above…

Then comes Saturday night. Since then, I am consistently finishing in the bottom 4 in damage no matter what I do. I suddenly feel weak and glass canon-ish (again, the typical retreat of balancing with the shaman).

Wake up play some this morning… Same thing. I am pumping out deeps just to see if its me and nope… Finished 6th out of 10 on my team. (Of course pallys are at top but I am talking about my class).

Anyone notice this or did I just personally go from mid player to trash?

[Vortimer-proudmoore]

@Radioblaze-sargeras

I know Pallys are extremely OP in PvP but I noticed something else.

Fixed that for you… Pallys are not at all OP in PvE (mid-tier in Raid, 6th from bottom in M+).

Also, Ret was nerfed in PvP by a hotfix on 24-Mar (with rolling restarts) as noted HERE. Perhaps you missed that notice.

@Sanq-11813

Player versus Player

• Paladin
  • [Live March 24] Crusader’s Reprieve healing reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
  • Protection
    • [Live March 24] Judgment of Light healing reduced by 35% for Protection Paladins in PvP combat.
  • Retribution
    • Developers’ note: Retribution Paladins have been heavily overperforming in PvP with their recent 10.0.7 changes. We’re primarily targeting their burst damage, passive survivability, and PvP talents that we feel are contributing too much overall damage.
    • [Live March 24] Judgment of Light healing reduced by 35% for Retribution Paladins in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Inquisitor’s Ire effectiveness reduced by 40% in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Fading Light effectiveness reduced by 50% for Retribution Paladins in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Justicar’s Vengeance now deals 15% additional damage to stunned targets in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Justicar’s Vengeance healing reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Blessing of Dawn effectiveness reduced by 25% for Retribution Paladins in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Divine Arbiter direct damage reduced by 25% in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Vanguard of Justice effectiveness reduced by 25% in PvP combat.
    • [Live March 24] Empyrean Legacy increases the damage of Divine Storm by 15% in PvP combat (was 25%).
    • [Live March 24] Luminescence (PvP Talent) now increases damage and healing by 2% (was 4%).
    • [Live March 24] Lawbringer (PvP Talent) now deals 2% of maximum health (was 4%).
    • [Live March 24] Fixed an issue that caused Avenging Wrath’s 75% PvP multiplier to not function for Retribution Paladins.

[Radioblaze-sargeras (Radioblaze)]

They are still OP… 4 or 5 every team, always leading by far in damage…

Also things I am noticing…

1: My lava burst used to hit hard, like 60-70k when Proc… Now I get hits for 30-39k.
2: My damage reduction is at least down by 20%.
3: Lighting bolts are once again “wet noodles” (Like clock work after every expac).
4: Why does my Spirit walk now take me out of Wolf form? The whole point is to gain 60% speed to run… It knocks you out of wolf form and becomes instantly useless.
5: Earth quake is literally a wasted talent. It is laughable that its still in the game.

[Vestalas-moon-guard]

Ugh I feel this. I retired my shaman main a while ago. Feels bad.

[Radioblaze-sargeras (Radioblaze)]

What is with that? the last 4 expacs they change shaman… Comes out good…
Gets nerfed slowly over the next month, back to pure garbo… I fall for it every expac. Problem is, I love the class!

[Marshen-bleeding-hollow]

Paladins WERE overpowered, got a bit of a nerf, and now are probably on the same level warriors were a few weeks ago?

Idk, to me, Ret Paladin feels like the new Arms Warrior.

Sucks they nerfed Enh, it was doing so well at the start of the expansion. All I see are Ele and Restos now.