No, your specific statement was “certain corruptions” otherwise I wouldn’t have said anything.
There is a difference between someone just having corruptions and requiring people to have specific ones.
Or maybe they did but we all know how words get used well out of context. It’s sometimes interesting to see what the public thinks. It’s entertaining to see so many wrong.
Based on the responses/definitions here, it seems imprecise. I’d say it’s the cream filling in a cream horn. I hope this helps.
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Yeah, any/certain corruptions that go with their build or gimmick that will make me invite them.
DH can stack Infinite Stars and Twilight Dev and I’ll accept them. I’ll also accept them if they’re stacking 3 tier 2 Ineffable Truth and the rest into Versatile.
I won’t accept an Arms warrior stacking only Masterful because its likely they’re playing a clown build and aren’t serious or have little class knowledge for a +15.
Elitism is a term for overly-competitive people believing that World of Warcraft is, at its core, a competitive game.
Elitists will run up the infinite treadmill of Mythic+ and swear up and down the game should be balanced around an infinite level of keys so they can feel better about themselves when they plateau.
Elitists will also swear up and down that Mythic is the end-all-be-all for some mythological competitive race that no one else is playing.
These people are completely intolerable, dragging in competitive elements from League, Overwatch, etc. into an RPG because that’s where you go for balanced gameplay.
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That’s fair enough, that wasn’t the impression that your initial post gave but it sounds like that was just misinterpreted by me.
I guess the real difference is between someone who looks like they are trying to play their class (regardless of if they have just had bad luck with say azerite or something) and someone who is just not really bothering to try at all.
Well said!
Any game with a competitive scene is going to have elitists.
Whether that be world firsts, pvp, or mythic+.
World of Warcraft is and it is also not a competitive game at the same time.
Strokes for different folks. Unfortunately the non-competitive scene ends at instanced PvP, Mythic +2 and Heroic raids.
No, it isn’t. At all. Competitive people have just co-opted what they ‘think’ is competitive. Like you thinking the non-competitive scene ends at Random BG’s and Mythic +2’s.
World firsts have never been a thing.
PvP has been a dumpster fire.
And the Mythic invitational is a joke.
Blizzard has wasted so much time placating competitive people in a game that was never built for it.
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The game has had a competitive scene all the way back to Vanilla, especially PvP with the ranking system added shortly after release.
Sure they have, World First has been a tradition since Vanilla. Even if they weren’t coined the term.
None of these are good arguments.
To be fair, there was nothing “competitive” about vanilla PVP’s ranking system. My original guild leader actually AFK’d all the way to rank 13. He went around telling everyone, openly talked about it and nothing ever happened to him. He kept his rank and rewards. He was an O…K… player.
They’re opinions, just like this comment. That doesn’t make it true.
Fundamentally it was a competitive field of content. That goes without saying, I’m sure he had to fight his way to where he was able to one shot everybody.
Not really, no.
A self-imposed competitive scene. And the PvP ranking system was so good, Blizzard kept it for fifteen years.
Which has never been supported by the developers. Ever.
Those are excellent points.
Blizzard tried making Arenas an E-Sport. It became a laughing stock.
Blizzard is still trying to make Mythic+ Invitational ‘an E-Sport’, but even screws that up.
World of Warcraft was never competitive. No RPG is. It’s all in your head.
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The quote listed here is an example of an elitist. It is someone who puts themselves on a pedestal and treats those they see as beneath them with contempt. It is unfortunately a large portion of the WoW player base.
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By that logic all games where you fight against other players is not competitive since it’s not imposed by the developers.
Because CoD has a campaign and zombies mode it’s not competitive, and so on
Which doesn’t need to be.
They’re irrelevant points.
Your personal opinion on content is not
objective in determining if its competitive or not.
They dont support any argument that this piece of content is competitive or not.
They would support the argument that PvP is a dumpster fire because of Corruptions however
Sorry. You never had any valid points to begin with.
Those modes aren’t competitive. That’s why developers specifically create ‘competitive’ modes and ladders, where competitive players can compete in an area specifically designed for them.
It’s self-explanatory that a developer would have to declare ‘World First’ a competition in order for ‘World First’ to be competitive.
Um, trying to advertise Arenas as an E-Sport, which is the literal top of competition, and it utterly fails out of the gate is a clear sign that it was never competitive to begin with.
Trying to advertise Mythic+ as a ‘competition’, only to show thirsty competitive players how to game the mechanics using a select group of classes and a select group of specs by Blizzard’s own incompetency is another obvious sign that, y’know, World of Warcraft is not competitive.
Just because you disagree and have absolutely no proof that ‘competitive’ WoW is successful, doesn’t mean you’re right.
You just sound salty at this point.
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Elitism is a mindset, and like most words used incorrectly. To be an elitist you have to look down on another group as being inferior/subhuman compared to you for whatever reason (like a supremacist but not in a racial way).
The issue is that a high-end player isn’t automatically an elitist, but often behaves like one. That’s not to say someone is an elitist for wanting to play with like-minded people. That doesn’t make you an elitist. What DOES is constantly talking down to other people or considering them beneath you and not worth your time (in the general sense. Nobody is saying you need to do community service and help everyone).
Basically someone who is a high-end player that wants to play with other high-end players in challenging content isn’t an elitist by default. Someone who constantly insults “bads” or talks about how great they are and everyone else sucks is an elitist; in fact a surefire way to tell an elitist is by their constant use of disparaging language (e.g. baddies, scrub, etc.) in regards to other players, behaving like other people are scum.
It’s not only the high end content though. You can be an elitist if you, for example, look down on people who roleplay in a particular way that you don’t (this is common on RP servers). Hell you can be an elitist if you have a large transmog or pet collection and look down on others who don’t. The key point is looking down on and being rude/insulting to other people based on something you do which they may or may not do at the same capacity.
It’s just that a lot of the perceived elitism revolves around PVE and PVP content and there is a large contingent of people who feel the need to make themselves feel better than their peers. You’ll notice that a lot of the really high-end players aren’t like that and are usually more helpful and understanding. It’s that large upper-middle area where you find a lot of the hostility.
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Okay… so that means Arenas and Mythic+ is part of the competitive scene. Then again, you’re wrong. Because PvP Rating exists. World First +30 has been achieved by players from China.
Yeah, because of a new system that hasn’t even been tested outside of conception. Corruptions. Try looking back further, I’m sure it was less than a dumpster fire back then.
Uh… yeah, because it’s a competition? Maxing out your chances of winning a competition is not a case for Mythic+ not being even remotely competitive.
You dont have any proof either, but I just dont disagree with you. You’re fundamentally wrong. Especially when talking about today’s WoW.
And the award for the 100th post in this thread goes to…
ME.
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