What is deciding who holds Wintergrasp?

Yeah great, except

IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY

hence this thread

It is whoever wins the last game yep. Except this ends up allowing everyone to have access. They basically ruined the event but who cares. People just want the gear anyway.

I have bought the helm and boots already. Everything works fine…

Then you may want to make a post in bug report.
Maybe something is going on due to it being OCE.

I also have helm and boots. I’ve been running WG since it was spam queueable by default. Multiple times I have come off the back of THREE wg wins, flown to wg, horde controlled it, the quartermaster is hostile, I’ve layered, the horde controlled every layer.

Again, you don’t seem to be able to address the question. The quartermaster belongs to one faction at a time. Wintergrasp is not phased. You can see both horde and alliance players in the zone between games. Even if it was layerbased, when there is one layer on a realm, but still multiple games of WG with both factions winning, how exactly are you telling me that control of wintergrasp will work?

There is no bug. There is literally no provision for what “control by both factions” even means. The blizzard blurb you have posted is at odds with how the zone fundamentally works.

It is phased. And a phase is not a layer, btw. Phase is just the state of things, like how the zone changes as you quest along in the beginning of Icecrown. I KNOW I am sharing space with people in a different phase that I cannot see, because I will hit a mine but it says it is already in use, yet I see no one. They are phased.

I cannot explain it any better, but it is this way. If you won WG and fly into the keep after battles close at :30 and it is not yours, something went wrong. You should never see horde npcs unless your entire faction lost the entire queue session.

I have flown to wintergrasp. I can see horde players there, using the quartermaster. I can attack them if i wish. I can also see other alliance players. I can buff them. I just won a wintergrasp 5 minutes earlier.

If there is some magical phasing, then how exactly does it benefit me? How do I enable it? Is there an npc I can talk to to enable it?

I strongly doubt the server architecture is coded differently somehow just because I’m in Oceania.

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Yes, this is as it should be almost everywhere in the zone, active and full of contest.
Except both factions need access to the keep at the same time, because both potentially have won. So the keep will be phased.

Well it sure isn’t phased for me, or anyone else on Arugal that I’ve talked to.

And I am talking about in the keep. Right next to the entrance to the orb room. I can see and interact with horde players there. I’ve attacked one while they were using the quartermaster. There is no phasing, not on my realm.

You said “back when” and I’m wondering what you are referring to

They kind of forgot to limit us to 1 match per lockout, so it could be openly queued during the 30 minutes for about 4 or 5 games worth.

Is essence of wintergrasp the buff that lets you get stonekeeper shards? if so, this is absolutely false because alliance have only had it for a few brief moments on Arugal in total so far, even when we win at least win of the WG’s.

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https://imgur.com/a/yy6mJVk

Off the back of a wintergrasp win. Horde able to use vendor. Both ally and horde in same phase. Ally unable to use. There is no phasing.

Not sure how I can be any more explicit than this. Relayering did not and does not fix it.

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Wintergrasp is broken on OCE, the last game of wintergrasp decided who owns the zone:
If ally wins, then horde wins, then ally wins - ally has control. It doesn’t matter that the horde won only that alliance was the last to get control

lol

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In Wrath of the Lich King Classic, this works in a fairly simple way, if anyone on your faction participates in and wins a Battle for Wintergrasp, your entire faction is granted the Essence of Wintergrasp and the buff will last until the next time the battle is initiated.

As it stands now the last winning game on each layer determines which side will receive the buff, meaning you can win a game, but will lose it as soon as a game is lost on your layer.

I thought this was the case, but I’m pretty sure we won the last WG running just then and we don’t seem to control it right now

Just won again, and lost the buff before i got to the flight master…

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Not sure how it’s working in NA but it’s definitely bricked on Arugal (maybe all of OCE). I’m in winning games all the time and I’ve had the buff once in the last 3 days, despite being online for 16+ hrs daily. I can also count on one hand how many times we’ve had control of the keep on alliance since wotlk launched.

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Literally word for word what the blue post says

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