He does say “heat rises” which is not technically true. Hot air rises but does so slowly and will go in any direction your fans send it otherwise it’s pretty much on point with airflow.
it was neat watching the smoke or vapor or w/e it was flow thru the rigs
The only reasons to put an AIO on a 7800x3d are aesthetics, and to run the system quieter.
wanting cooler temps is the reason bro
As I said in my first post in here, shoulda coulda woulda.
There’s something…just neat in the simplicity in an air cooler.
I use an ak620 for my older 10900k and a Deep Cool Assassin III on my 9900k. They can get a little loud sometimes when the cous ramp up but I never worry about things going wrong on them.
But with really good coolers shaking up the budget market, like id cooling or thermal right, I just don’t see a reason outside of aesthetics or “I bought an Intel” to go AIO again.
guys listen im a fan of air cooling too alright, in fact dats all ive ever used in all the builds ive made is just air cooling and ive nvr really seen it as necessary to have liquid cooling when air cooling does in fact do an adequate job. so obviously i get it. but there’s lots of reasons i want to try an aio cooler.
i want to get with the times right. i want to increase my pc building knowledge, and yes, i do want to also lower my temps a bit if possible so i can enable the xmp profile in bios without things heating up too much. before when i enabled xmp, things heated up quite a bit so i disabled it.
there are lots of reasons here for me wanting to try an aio cooler, lots of reasons other than just aesthetics or noise issues
They tend to last a long time relatively. I’ve had my Corsair h150i cappelix since 2020 and it seems to be showing no sign of issues.
And CPU power/heat is trending up, not down. So even if the 7800x3d may not require this much cooling for sustained use, a future am5 chip may.
They look cool, are quiet, and work well.
For many it ends up being a cost factor though, as they’re usually $100 more than competitive air coolers.
So a lot of people, say if they are limited in budget, perhaps that $100 extra could have gone to a better CPU instead. But in your case, you already have the best gaming CPU. So if you can afford the AIO there’s no real downside to using one.
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don’t forget the mobo VRM will impact this as well along with the voltage settings in your BIOS and the old silicone lottery. Outside of a custom loop, AIO would be the easiest “out of box” way to lower the CPU temp along with proper case airflow. I personally prefer air coolers and there are plenty of options in that department as well. Thing is with AIO, you have fans hitting 2400RPM plus as opposed to 1600rpm plus on most air coolers. You do get a noise increase for your better temps.
Also don’t forget that physically, AIOs help make setup simpler. Large air coolers make working inside the case after assembly (like disconnecting EPS) nearly impossible sometimes. Also even sometimes GPU PCIE retention tab can be a hassle to get to, and sometimes needed in order to install M.2 drives.
AIOs have benefits
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hoping for exactly that n if i can’t get a significant temp reduction with this thing im sending it back, this monster was 160 bucks even at prime day pricing, granted i coulda went a lil cheaper wif somethin else but i loves me some corsair right they nvr let me down, hope im not jinxing myself by sayin that
noise isnt a big deal to me really, i dnt have normal hearing anyway, had like 12 ear surgeries thru the years but ya it’s fine if aio is a lil bit louder idc
ya ur right about that n i def will not miss having that big bulky air cooler in there making it difficult to access anyting aruond it
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always have to weigh the pros and cons that are unique to the individual
I believe it was Scott Wasson from TechReport who used to say there as no such thing as bad tech just bad prices (not 100% true but people got the gist)
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that feel when you slice your finger open on a tower fin while trying to plug a fan in 
ugh yea im def def def not gonna miss that, have drew a lil red once or twice along the way its nvr fun. the struggle is real wif air coolers. i love air coolers just fine n dandy until i need to get to somethin around them for sum reason n end up having to take the flippin cooler out just to try to get to something n have to reseat the cooler n erhmagerdz i will not miss that sorta stuff at all if this aio ends up workin out
Aio pumps should be set in the bios to run at a static speed at all times. They are not intended to ramp up and down like fans.
Also probably need to set the pump header to dc instead of pwm. It might even be called pump or fan in the bios.
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yep, and most modern motherboards have an AIO header which is defaulted to DC 100%
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have had it installed n running for a few days and it’s AMAZING, i absolutely love it. looks incrediballs wif teh rgb lighting, love the iqueu software n best part is it lowered my temps significantly.
of course temps vary continually dependin on w/e im doing but on heaviest loads am a good 9 to 11 degrees cooler which is huge, and that’s with the xmp profile enabled which i was not able to do before cause it heated stuff up too much.
i can do anything i want now n play around with tweaks n various settings with no fear of dangerous temps. i know anyting can go wrong later n i could be eating dese words but right now i’m just wishin i had done this years ago instead of waiting so long. i love dis ting so much
and the guy who told me there’s no reason to use an aio with a 7800x3d except aesthetics n noise issues, bro couldn’t be more wrong. dis is one of the best decisions i ever made for my rig. looks incredible n made a phenomenal diff in my temps
Thing about cooling is that they’re all trying to do the same thing in different ways with different results and different strengths and drawbacks. In my opinion:
Air coolers
pros: cheaper, simpler, more reliable, easier to maintain, usually don’t require active software and can be solely controlled in BIOS
Cons: Even the biggest baddest air coolers can’t keep up with very high TDP CPUs and thus are completely out of the question for some applications, soak much quicker and have more yo-yo fan RPM, physically obnoxious near the socket, more physical strain on the motherboard
AIO’s
pros: generally lower temperature when appropriately sized, soak much slower and respond to burst CPU loads better (less fan RPM yo-yoing), physically simpler to work on near the socket, have much more customization, are usually more flashy regarding aesthetics, may sometimes be better options when cooler heigh becomes an issue on certain builds, come in many different radiator sizes for a wide range of applications.
cons: expensive, more hardware to mount radiators, more complex to setup, more prone to failure (in addition to the fans, of which there usually are more of, there’s failure chance of the pump, tubing, fittings, and liquid contamination defects), many require active software for best performance/aesthetics resulting in more system load, are more complex to maintain/clean due to radiator fins and fans collecting dust
There’s always tradeoffs and it really depends on what CPU you’re using, your case, other components in your PC, your ambient temperature, etc. etc.
The more specialized/powerful your computer gets the more compromises have to be made one way or another to get what you want out of it.
Ultimately, time and place for everything and there is no one size fits all solution when it comes to computer parts
One could argue there’s no point to a $150 360 AIO over a $40 Thermalright Dual Tower for a ryzen 5 7600X, which if you are looking solely at performance is true in absolute terms, you could say simply you prefer the look and maintenance access the pump affords and you’d be 100% correct.
bro ill nvr again go back to air coolers, i have seen the light
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Ive been using AIOs for about 10 years now and they are ok. I dont think they are any better or worse than air coolers, but the look is really nice.
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This is a PC Builders MYTH and is NEVER recommended except in 1 situation. Front vs up top will be a 4c difference MAX on the CPU. While a Front mounted Radiator Blows HOT air across your GPU, RAM, VRMs and Motherboard which can raise the temp on ALL those components over 10c depending on the size of your case. Its a terrible trade off. Gamers Nexus, Jay and a few other Tech Tubers have talked about this. The main keynote people miss in said Tech Youtubers Videos due to the fact they skip around instead of watching the full video is the fact that the bottom intake is VERY important when using a front mounted radiator because it offsets the hot air being blown in from the front across your PC components.
The 1 situation where people use Front mount radiators are done in Large Full Tower cases with bottom intake and fans mounted on the bottom to help blow cooler air across your motherboard and RAM. The ONLY caveat to this is on Closed Loop Liquid cooled PCs. On closed Loop system the Radiator Placement is much more trivial
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