I’m a long time wow player. Played every expansion but WoD. The community hasn’t been this toxic ever.
I recently got kicked out of a dungeon for no reasons. I am tank, we enter the dungeon and the DH starts running around. Its Atal’dazar. He runs in the middle aggro mobs, we kill them. Ok fine. Then he goes on and tries to get to the sides, the way is blocked because we have to start with side and not the middle.
He says
“I don’t know how to do this dungeon”.
I reply with
“Then stop running around like you do”.
He goes like
“lol I can solo this dungeon you don’t have to follow me”
and starts aggroing everything after I said that we have to start with the sides.
3 minutes later I get kicked.
Can blizzard please do something about this or am I just a whiney donkey and this is how the game should be ?
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This is just how the game is. It’s how every game is.
Online interactions aren’t rated by the ESRB.
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He’s not wrong.
They can’t, after people mock Ghostcrawler because Cata dungeons are too hard and requires teamwork, I don’t think they can go back to that design.
And people will not cooperate in a soloable dungeon, that’s just human nature.
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Ok fine.
I get that people might not cooperate. But why is a fonctionnality put in place to prevent any form of griefing is used for exactly the opposite ?
M8 if a mythic geared player goes into a heroic or whatever dungeon for a quest, they have 0 reason to care or follow the tank because they can tank most stuff themselves.
We would want to finish everything asap, not waste time because some undergeared ppl want to take the dungeon seriously.
Maybe ask blizzard to make quests doable in m+ so we dont have to touch lower difficulties, it does get annoying when i need to do some roflstomp dungeon for a quest because m+ doesnt drop the quest item.
I think you can just 4 man the dungeon while the DH take his own route, i know this sounds absurd but that’s the reality of LFD dungeon difficulty.
Nope. You will cross people like this on the internet everywhere you go. Even in real life. You have to get over it.
I get you ralph but that is not my point here.
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Also happened at the end of Legion. I clicked group finder to do the quest and as soon as we logged in I was kicked.
They didn’t need a Tank. But they needed me to pop the dungeon in LFD. This is who we are dealing with.
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I’m not talking about the “queue as tank” fonctionnality.
I’m talking about the vote kick.
The griefer kicked me for doing my job.
Yeah fine. But that guy used a feature to prevent griefing while he was the one griefing. He made me lose 15 minutes of my time. I was chainpulling too I didn’t stop… how is this not addressed by blizzard ?
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I wouldn’t get too upset. Just move on.
Part of me thinks 2020 has just taken people’s emotions to new extremes. It’s not just WoW forums/in-game toxicity where people are being rude and losing their cool.
We all have been couped up for too long. Everyone just needs to go to Coachella and get laid
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There will always be players in the game who are a-holes. That’s the case for any online game. And a lot of people who act like that are concentrated into LFG. Not saying that everybody who uses LFG is a jerk or anything, but people who are jerks don’t tend to have guild groups or in-game friends who are eager to run things with them. So I feel like the sample you’re getting can be a bit distorted.
Honestly, any time I see people complaining about how toxic the community is, I just want to shake them and tell them to join a guild or community. There are so many communities out there for players of all levels, and the vibes are just so much better because you’re dealing with people who are there to work together and have fun. Find a group that fits you, is active, and is doing the content you’re looking to do in game. The feeling that the game is filled overwhelmingly with toxic people will literally just disappear.
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I’m upset at blizzard for this feature because this wont stop.
Yeah I know that. But its an alt I’m trying to level as prot in dungeons so I don’t end up sucking at M+
Thing is I will be doing premades but not while leveling thru BFA… It just feels wrong to me that a feature meant for griefing is actually used for the opposite.
The fact your worrying about getting kicked from a dungeon is kind of funny after the last few days here on the forums were people laugh at people getting sick and calling each other racists blah blah blah, the real toxic crap. getting kicked really don’t matter. if blizz really made the game hard problem solved never happen. the hard part is if you don’t play fotm you just suck cause there’s like a few specs good rest garbage
Meh. My server is a good community and I never PUG so I can avoid these issues.
Blizz can’t really do anything, and you’re not being a whiney donkey: this is how the game is at the tail end of every expansion. Nothing makes sense, heroic difficulty is less than trivial, and we’re all just marking time.
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Unfortunately your first part is right, this game has been this way for a long time sadly but your second part isn’t accurate. Not all games are like this and as much as I hate to use this as an example but FFXIV has a much better community overall than here for not being so toxic and elitist. So, not ALL game communities are this bad. WoW is easily one of the most toxic and I’ve been gaming online since online gaming became a thing.
If the Mythic geared player can tank the dungeon why are they using the LFD tool to get it rather than just going to the instance themselves and soloing it?
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Please be aware that the social aspect of the game is the way it is by design. This is a game where there is a /spit emoji. The people who design this game know what griefing and bad behavior is, they know what vote-kick abuse is, and they know what the have/have-not tension is. They know. And they’re fine with it. They will occasionally say sympathetic things, but this is over a decade of paying lip service to improved social experience with very little if any improvement.
They know. And they’re okay with it. And anything they say to the contrary is lip service to shut you up.
This is the dev team that created an LFR system where your repair bills end up being higher than you experience in H/M raiding.
Solution: Get a guild with decent human beings who self-regulate and hold members accountable for their behavior and contributions. And never, ever, ever pug.