What do we want? High Elves!

Neither do most of the megathread usuals, I sure don’t. But I also recognize it’s a possibility with how long the Megathreads stay locked.

All in all as long as there isn’t more than 1 different High elf thread on the front page, I don’t see it as a massive issue because it’s something any reasonable person can avoid by muting the thread in a span of 10 seconds.

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Yes it is. It is always mentioned in past tense for a reason. It started crumbling when the groups that composed it started leaving over the matter of the orcs after the 2nd war. Quel’Thalas, Stromgarde, and Gilneas, for example, all deserted the alliance of lordaeron to become independent states once more with Quel’Thalas leading the charge. It fell in on itself entirely and was no more when King Terenas was killed by Arthas and Lordaeron was destroyed.

You don’t get any more dead than that.

The alliance that exists now is a reformed successor organization that has the idealism of the old one, but it doesn’t have all of the old allegiances and groups. The new alliance started out with only a few of the old members - Dwarves, Gnomes, and Stormwind humans. Night elves were not an original member and joined in later mostly because they hate orcs.

Some of the groups that made up the alliance of lordaeron are either neutral now (Dalaran), don’t exist anymore due to destruction (Stromgarde + Alterac), were MIA for a long time but have since returned due to the horde in some capacity (Gilneas + Kul’Tiras), or switched their political and organizational affiliations entirely (Quel’Thalas).

Again, you are correct. Lordaeron fell first and thus the high elves had no help coming anyway.

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Hmmm no. Blood elves are a crappy knock off of a high elf. High elves dont exist as a playable race stop trying to make it seem like horde has that race, they dont.

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What?

Blood Elves are High Elves which means High Elves are playable.

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Where are the Night Elf crews for those?

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Some people think that calling a dog any other name besides dog makes it a new species.

It doesn’t.

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I think they may have rolled there on their own, never saw anyone around them.

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Yes Cezol…let’s grant that they were built by high elves, great…but where are the High Elf crews that would be manning them? I mean do a headcount, this is supposedly everything the alliance can scrape together for one last Mother of all Battles; where are they?

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Danath came back in the Arathor warfront, Stromgarde definitely made a resurgence.

Alterac can stay dead though, Perenolde was a greenskin lover.

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Are you quite certain of that?

The alliance of lordaeron isn’t the official name of the alliance and it never was. That was an alternative named it was often referred to has. The alliance of lordaeron was officially the grand alliance and the alliance today is the same grand alliance.

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wrong siege.

I removed the image, but I’ll ask again: are you certain there are no Void Elves at the siege?

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And where are the people manning all the towers sprinkled around the battlefield?

We don’t take visual of the High elven Ballista as “There we’re high elves definitely fighting in the battle” or we can we just can’t see them, we don’t see a lot of races present at the battle, doesn’t mean they’re not there, which is besides the point and not worth arguing.

What we take from their presence is the presence of high elves allied with the Alliance in general.

As I’ve said 3 times, it can be at most suggested that Vereesa and the SC donated said Ballista to the war effort, it doesn’t take someone of that race to fire a weapon of said race.

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This is true. I would say their status is kind’ve ambiguous as this time. We don’t know what their numbers are and what their general condition is.

Wrong.

“The memories of the allegiances and idealism of the Alliance of Lordaeron ― centered in the homonymous continent ― served as the ultimate inspiration for the new Alliance of the present day.”

The key word here is “new.”

Sourced from the World of Warcraft: Ultimate Visual Guide, page 68.

So again, reformed successor organization since the alliance of lordaeron is consistently referred to by past tense.

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yeah I don’t buy that as canon considering we have the guy that practically wrote the lore of warcraft saying it is the same alliance.

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yeah well you also refuse to accept the high elves are blood elves now. not shocked you think the alliance of lordaeron is the same thing despite the fact lordaeron is gone. no shocker you also deny this bit of lore as well. you think the modern horde is the same from wc2 as well right

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like I said the alliance of lordaeron was never the official name. It was always the grand alliance.

Also do you seriously believe high elves are blood elves? That isn’t how it works. High elves don’t get forced to become blood elves just because of the leader of quel’thelas decided to rename their people blood elves. They were not the ruler of these high elves thus they never held the authority to rename them.

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yes. i dont know if you know this but the high elves rebranded themselves blood elves after a national tragedy. or is this not canon as well

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last time I checked not all high elves (and the majority of the ones we are asking for) did not live in nor consider quel’thelas their nation.

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