I completely get that and I hate when people do that to me. But that’s not what people are doing, they played the start of the expansion, they skipped the middle part, came back for the end and went “I don’t understand why this guy was the end raid boss in this middle part I didn’t play” and then said they didn’t like it.
It’s more like only reading the beginning and end of a book and then complaining that it didn’t make sense and you didn’t like it.
Yes and if they don’t deliver a story to your liking you stop paying them. That’s it you don’t demand anything you just STOP paying and playing. The end
They give us no choice but to read it in two dungeons made an hour long by cutscenes. Speaking of Castrum and Prae, it’s a real stretch to call any of that “so good”. That’s camp that makes Val’sharah look like high literature.
I get your point but this is a Blizzard created problem. The game heavily tries to push you into current content so if you take a break its actually a waste of time to stay where you left off lol
For them to write a better story…that you even needed to make this thread smacks of trolling.
Why does it always seem like the people defending the story the loudest don’t seem to have read anything of quality at all?
The story has become terrible lately. Deal with it. People are going to complain. Go make a thread about how its the greatest story you have ever experienced or that its quality is on par with what you are used to and walk away. You have your right to enjoy low quality stories, we have our right to mention that its a low quality story because it is.
I completely agree and definitely wish they would do a better job at making it easier to go back and do the story you missed out on in chronological order. But if they did do that, I don’t even think some of the people complaining about the story who skipped it would even bother to go back and do it but would still complain about the story anyway if I’m being honest.
How do you suggest they present a better story to people who don’t bother to play the content where said better story is presented to them? How should they present a better story to people who can’t even at the bare minimum watch cutscenes?
How can you expect players to play whole zones worth of story when the story is completely boring and childish.
I at least expect people who are complaining about the story being bad to have actually played the game. Otherwise what is your solution to a better story?
Again:
Even if they did present us with a better story, are you actually gonna play through it? How would you even know if it is a better story if you don’t even play it?
…I just go based off actually reading quests and talking to NPCs. The book lore isn’t necessary to understand the story.
The books are filled with side-stories and background information, nothing you need to know to understand the story.
Imagine skipping half of the best WoW expansion yet, oof.
Seriously! I haven’t read a single WoW-related book and I understood the DF story just fine without it. I do read the quest text and I understand that’s probably too much for most people, but there’s so many cutscenes and voiced lines this expansion that you barely even need to do that, either.
Are people just not playing with sound or something? There’s literally captions on the cutscenes too, and chat bubbles for what the characters are saying. I have no idea how so many people missed such integral parts of the story right in front of their eyes.
Amazing how you keep attributing things to everyone when you speak.
Bye.
The reason for the OP’s issue, is that, and its simple… blizz is greedy. Its about money, they made a flash expansion with ZERO story and all new goodies. Zero substance of story and all money grab. Period. Its obvious with the new 3 day head start if you buy the highest package thing. The demise of a good game is when they start wanting you to spend more money and writing garbage, AND I MEAN GARBAGE, stories. The questing areas were more interesting than the dang plot of DF.
Uh, what? No, my issue is simply that the people complaining the loudest about the story when pressed on it haven’t actually played the game or just didn’t pay attention at all.
I’m completely fine with people who did play the game and pay attention not liking the story, I personally wasn’t a fan of it myself. But it is literally impossible to take your criticism seriously when you say something like “there was not enough build up to explain why Sarkareth was the end boss in Aberrus” when there were literally 3 zones worth of story explaining it.
At the end of the day, I want WoW to have a good story, too, but it’s never going to have a good story if the writers have to write around people who don’t pay attention to the story at all.
The story is trash. Literally. I remember all the crazy stuff leading up to wod, all the short stories and events. DF is just crap compared to the rest of them… even cataclysm was better and thats saying a lot. Its Warcrat, not Familycraft (insert Dom meme saying family).
Personally I don’t think you should have to play a new race/class to understand the story.
Wrath didn’t require you to play a DK to understand the story. If you wanted to understand the DK specific story sure, you should probably play one, but the expansion story didn’t require it.
You should be able to log onto say a warlock, and get the full story and understand why Sarkareth was a villain. Playing a Dracthyr shouldn’t be required
You probably should have quit at the start of Dragonflight then, because that was quite literally the premise of this expansion from the beginning. All of the aspects quite literally say that from the beginning, and not in quest text either, like voiced lines and cutscenes all about getting their aspect powers back and being a family again.
Like I honestly don’t know what you expected, but you knew what you were getting from the very beginning and now everyone is like “FAMILY? IN MY WOW???”
The stories to me are fine.
its the systems and currencies Im literally sick of.
More questlines, less systems, thanks
I don’t feel like the writers are writing around anyone who doesn’t pay attention. The story is available, and it’s presented, linearly unless you skip it.
I think the main issue is that you don’t need to force a good story, or jump through hoops if you want people to pay attention. If people care enough about the story to contribute their opinions on forums about it they’re looking for a story that’s worth following, and tbh as a whole this xpac missed the mark. However playing the game feels arguably better than it ever has in my opinion, the issue is the game i’m playing just isn’t WoW, sure it’s got all the same characters and the world is amazing but the story feels like cheap fanfiction.
I though Sarkareth was executed just fine, and i thought he did fine as a raid boss. I did play a Drakthyr for the into scenario but Sarkareth was present in the story without this but it added alot.
Fyrakks build up was actually great, he was intimidating, psychotic, willing to swing on his own sister, killed one of his own men, just an all around pyromaniac. TBH I wish the other dragon aspects had as much depth as he does. WITH THAT SAID, the whole muhahaha I will spare you just to make you watch the tree burn was sloppy. Followed by the ol’ “I Am Not Alone” que Avengers Assemble… and all the faction leaders port in and miss a static target.
My gripes with the story aren’t with Fyrakk, they’re mainly with the Dragon aspects they don’t feel like dragons, they’re more like gum drops. Because the plot is very driven by these characters you can’t escape them, they set the tone. The whole plot of Dragon Flight started off very, VERY strong. The second half didn’t really have the juice, Alextraza and Kalecgos, talk to you like a first grade teacher, notably in the Tyr quest chain, but also in general while working with them, not sure if it’s the voice actors not delivering or the writers but the dialog quite literally makes me recoil at times while listening, frankly it isn’t good dialog, teens write better fan fiction every day.
Fyrakk, and Iridikron were great, but for how strong he was I’d expect someone to be killed in the final confrontation, end raid cinematic could have used some bodies on the ground, dragon aspects wounded and banged up a bit, I understand China doesn’t like blood but you wouldn’t even need it. Then to cherry it off with the Aspects ready to hug it out like the only thing that just happened was them getting their powers back. No Player character in sight, no follow up. Are they going to release more quests where Amirdrassil shifts into Azeroth? Why didn’t Cenarius help out with the defense of the Dream? He just stood around in town, very out of character.
Love and Unity are a driving force in almost every great story, and it can and has been done right so many times. WoW is massive and there’s so much room for cute stuff and I love that about wow, it appeals to such a wide audience. In this xpac it felt like the cuteness was a bit overbearing to the point where the whole tone changed. I love sappy writing this was just sloppy.
For context, I played through the full story, Zaralek, and Forbidden Reach, completed the raids, and to top it off I read every single quest outloud to my wife, who tends to just gloss over, and accept everything without reading and is genuinely a bit forgetful unless the plot is particularly memorable.
I tried to like the story, and there’s allot about it I like, but the people want good writing, and they aren’t getting it. Sure they could have experienced the stuff you pointed out that they clearly missed, but they probably wouldn’t have liked it. The characters are well established and honestly, I could write a better Dragon themed expansion with a strong setup for everything they’re planning in future xpacs in just a couple weeks.
That’s fine, if it wasn’t your cup of tea, then it just wasn’t for you. I didn’t even really like it, either, honestly. But at least you actually played it and paid attention before criticizing it.
And I don’t even disagree about the part if people did actually play through the story and pay attention they probably wouldn’t have liked it, either. You’re probably right, but it just irks me to no end when people criticize something in this game they didn’t even freaking play or pay attention to. Their criticism rings so hollow and if the writers/devs are reading it, they are probably just going to straight up ignore it because of how obvious it is that the person didn’t even actually play the game.