Frosstfire has failed to realize that 3/4’s of this thread (and most of his threads in general) are him just getting trolled. He is so wrapped up in proving his point, he doesn’t even realize he is the meme.
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Brother I knew the problems with som more accurately than you and I won’t get into why I know that. No matter what you think, no matter how hard you resist the idea of world buffs, som was destined to be barren from the start because of world buffs. I don’t even care about world buffs by dude, I’m just stating what it is. A very gigantic portion of classic players play the game SOLELY, to parse and speed run. Which is why they stayed tbc and didn’t even entertain the idea. Discord’s all down my list spammed with “ lol no wbuffs im nexting”. It literally does not matter what your opinion is. The “survey” was not sent out to TONS of people. I have 4 blizzard accounts and I recieved a survey on none of them. As much as you hate world buffs, half the game for a lot of people revolves around the interaction around them, the pvp, the rush to try to get to raid without being purged or killed. The buffs gave people a risk reward factor and gave you a reason to not die. As I have always said dying in som does not matter. For many reasons other than buffs. Som is an extremely unengaging format of vanilla.
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You Googled it, didn’t you?
Frosty must be proud.
Yeah they are enjoying those world buffs in TBC.
Oh wait… there aren’t world buffs in TBC. Crazy…
How can they possibly be having fun without world buffs?!?!? It is almost like if you didn’t ever have them in an expansion you don’t miss them because they don’t matter.
Brother tbc and classic are two different games. CoD doesn’t have wbuffs either
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Checkers does though, if your shady cousin is playing.
NO! World buffs should be entirely removed from the game, even from classic era.
I found Frosstfire’s alt account or minion
It was a change specifically made for SoM to create a greater challenge to disable world buffs for raiding.
It is not a change for Classic Era. Two different ecosystems. It was always optional to gather world buffs depending on the individual or guild and remains so now in Classic Era.
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Favorite:
- No WBs (agreed, although I think they could have offered a pvp server option that had all the same changes, but allowed WBs in raids as a solution to those that wanted it?)
- The fresh experience (Yes, I missed the fresh part back in 2019 classic as I joined later on)
- No boosting (Yes, I would think it helped 5man grps form more, although with low population realms, after getting past the fresh wave, if you’re on one of the low population servers, it can be a challange to get grps together for below lvl 50 instances sadly. Also, people seem to post crazy prices on the AH thinking everyone buys gold…).
- Slightly faster leveling (Yes, this is nice)
- Faster pace is nice (I was debating before SoM release that a 1.5 cycle would be better…but I am now more open to the 12 month cycle)
- Blizzard is actually handling bots and gold buyers (I know they did a big banwave recently and heard of many gold buyers on my realm and guild getting banned for a couple of weeks and bot population going down, but I think I heard bots are still around as they just keep coming back?)
- SUMMONING STONES - I love this, it helps getting people to 5mans. Like on the Alliance side, not having to wait for all 5 people to get to SFK or SM if no warlock in the group. Same for WC, RFK, RFD, and Deadmines if you’re Horde. I mean, at least on PVE servers, please keep this feature!
-I’m sure there are other favorites but so far just commented on yours which I pretty much agree with.
Things I don’t like:
- Harder raids (not really needed since no WBs) - Our guild definitely hit some walls for at least 2 of the bosses in MC. This is my first time doing raids in classic so new experience to me. I know that Garr and the arcane explosion/clone bosses were a pain for us for 2 weeks each but after those, we finished the rest pretty easy and now 10/10 and Ony all in one day each week last 3 weeks. Glad raid loot is now going to drop one extra to help us gear up faster…
- BGs and ranking at release (very bad decision) - no pvp for me, no comment.
- T0.5 gear at release (rogues super OP) - no rogues for me, no comment
- Ranking changes and ranking system in general - same as above
I’m curious to see how server transfers affect things going forward if they do give that option. I’m on one of the pve servers in the U.S. that has a lower population than the other PVE server and hope we get more transfers then people transferring out. We’re at a somewhat ok balance, I mean there are 3 guilds competing for world bosses right now so it would be cool if we don’t get more competition lol but at the same time, having more people to group up with for 5man/10man would be nice too and more competition on the AH bringing some of the prices down.
They should have just released som servers and then 1 era fresh.
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Favorite: All the crying salty people.
Least Favorite: All the crying salty people.
It’s a delicate balance and one I intend to uphold.
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