What are you even doing blizzard?

You can’t farm due to the bots… Flasks went UP in price… How are we supposed to even play this game at this point? I thought there was a lot of bots when classic was first launched, this blows that out of the water. It is absolutely unplayable

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But at least you don’t have to see gdkp ads in chat, who cares about all that other stuff.

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So instead of selling to swipers for GDKP they are withholding mats on the AH to create shortages, drive up prices, and then sell gold so you can just get invited to a raid…

Yea, it’s great. Now instead of a few sweatlords who care too much about having the best gear possible feeling the pressure to buy rmt gold, everyone on the server gets to feel that pressure.

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I bet I make 100 reports a day… every day… still the same bots weeks later

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Sounds like we should bring GDKPs back

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so the problem could be even worse? They should just kill the bots… it’s not that hard

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There is no evidence that GDKPs make RMT worse. In fact, I’ve heard some good arguments that GDKPs mitigate RMT.

If you can go into a GDKP raid and come out with a bunch of gold, there is less pressure on that individual to buy gold. Instead of the pressure to buy gold being placed on the top sweats, now everyone feels that pressure because there’s no easy GDKP raids to do for easy gold.

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Hiw do gdkps in any way mitigate rmt?

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Like this (copied my own post from other thread):

In sales, you have "yes"s, "no"s, and "maybe"s. Buying gold. Some will always do it, some will never, and some are “buy-curious” (wink). With GDKP, a “maybe” doesn’t have to buy gold to fund their characters–they can feed off the whales (the yesses) who engage in bid wars with each other on big-ticket items.

Blizzard is in bed with the gold sellers. They want to convert the "maybe"s into "yes"s, and GDKP stood in the way of this. The decision was purely an un-emotional financial decision. Nobody at Blizzard cares about the integrity of their games (anymore). It’s not about traditional guild structures. It can’t be about reducing RMT either because we see that the ban has actually increased the number of gold buyers. The whales who were always going to RMT simply don’t RMT as much as they would have, because they only need enough gold for BoEs, consumes, and mage boosts for alts. No need to purchase more for competitive bidding in GDKP. However, all those "maybe"s out there who used to fund themself with GDKP are now more likely to buy. The amount of gold purchased per player is lower, but the greatly increased number of players buying gold offsets that minimal reduction.

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“the bots” are not the issue. the issue is you’re playing on a MEGASERVER that is holding enough people for like 5+ regular servers :expressionless: this is what you wanted. you wanted muh easy groups at any time of the day. well, this is the cost of that. enjoy

I don’t know how factual it is as I take most everything I encounter on the internet with a large grain of salt, but there was a YT video that described in detail how the whole botting operation works. I’ll attempt to summarize but please bare in mind that I am not a “computer person” so you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t use the most fitting terminology. They described it like so:

Imagine that a good portion of the bots are organized and fall under the employ of a single entity, business or otherwise. Let’s just say that there are 10,000 bots that this group utilizes and that number is further divided into 10 groups of 1,000 bots each. Supposedly, each of those 10 groups uses a slightly altered bit of code such that if you were to create some program that could target that code, it would only be able to target a single group of 1,000 bots. They then ban that group. During that time, that entity has prepared another group of 1,000 bots that function using a bit of code that has been slightly altered yet again. Blizzard bans a group of 1,000 bots that are immediately replaced with a new group of 1,000 bots thus making no real progress at all. That’s why when bots are banned, they are done so in waves because Blizzard bans all of those bots that were using Code A, but can’t ban all of those using Code B - J because whatever program they use to detect these bots is only capable of detecting those using one type of code until it has to be updated to be able to detect the code being used by the next group.

Again, as I am not a computer person I have no idea whatsoever whether this is even remotely plausible but if it is a fairly accurate description of the problem at hand, it’s easy for someone like me to believe that this simply isn’t a problem that can be fixed unless Blizzard was able to target every bot and ban all of them in a single wave. This of course doesn’t account for the “small-time” botters who work independent of this supposed entity or “bot mafia” if you prefer.

No.

/10char

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agreed, it really is insidious. GDKPs were without a doubt reducing RMT, and blizzard got rid of them :expressionless: really makes you think

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its way better than rolling on a dead server and not gettings transfers off for months on end, possibly even years.

ok, well, enjoy your 200g+ flasks :expressionless: it’s only gonna get worse

this is 100% false with absolutely no merit to back up your claim

as opposed to what? your 450g flasks on whitemane?

no wonder your so pissed. i saw your economy on whitemane. what a joke.

stay in your own f’in lane!

it’s pretty simple logic

X number of people might be tempted to buy gold
they are presented with the option of either buying gold OR just going to a GDKP and making lots of gold without buying it
lots of them chose GDKP
without the GDKP option, lots of the set that chose GDKP are now going to choose RMT instead
:expressionless:

the fact you are comparing anniversary to a 6+ year old server is lol :expressionless: shows just how messed up anniversary economy is

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