While the Church of the Light, Tauren and the Night Elves find their Afterlife beliefs challenged!
The Draenei Afterlife was centered around Auchindoun and after the fall of both Auchindoun Shattrath switched to having Velen personally show up to send the Draenei to the Light(as if the Draenei were aware of the rule of Dibs).
The Kyrian respect the rule of Dibs and lets whoever grabs a Soul take it to their Cosmic Realm or Pocket Universe.
To address the topic, I think the rift will be healed and nobody will have anything to do with the Shadowlands again.
Now, for the interesting derailment:
All of this is racist. A dark-skinned gnome or elf doesn’t need to live in a hot area for centuries. The diversity could have come from the Curse of Flesh, simple as that.
I REALLY expect nothing from you, Yorae. You wanted to remove the dark skin tones from Worgen toons in human form.
You also complained about dark-skinned elves in the past, which I don’t need to dig up, since you did that here as well.
You have an odd fixation on black skin in WoW. No surprise you denied the racial tropes in Exploring Kalimdor as well. You’re French, right? Racism is a huge issue there.
Talking about racism, again. Sigh…
The problem is we now know what happens after characters die.
Yeah, and OP said.
I think they’ll do nothing.
That would be the correct guess but the consequence is we are going to be guessing which covenant the next dead character is going to end up when they die.
The mystery is gone. Death doesnt matter.
Wait a minute. Are you saying we have positive story development?
For Trolls?
How did that slip past the writers? Sounds like it’s time for ole’ Rokhan to get the Vol’jin treatment. What is this utter nonsense… positive development for Trolls. Back in my day we used to eagerly anticipate the patented “Troll Patch” that came with expansions. New and exciting ways to kill Trolls. Now they’re getting plot relevance and, I wretch at the thought, character development.
Also, jokes aside and on topic. Honestly I’m beginning to wonder if the next expansion starts with “and then you wake up” cause the overall reception of this expansion, and the, ahem choices made to change the lore have been poorly received at best. As others have said, Death doesn’t matter, and, ironically aside from Trolls almost everyone was like, WAY OFF on what happens when they die. So like… yeah.
It seems though, that anything they would do now with bwonsamdi has nothing to do with previous lore. That or villain bat him. Muehzala was dispatched too quickly. They mined him from Warcraft history and used him in one youth chapter book and one dungeon, before burying him. Muehzala needs to escape before the expansion is over or Bwonsamdi is a dead end.
Are you another who’s escaped the repeated declaration that there are an infinite number of afterlives beyond the four service covenants? Everyone is going to get a reminder of that when the next and last major content patch drops.
A covenant is still a covenant. I know how the afterlife system works and the god that apparently sends each soul to each covenant.
The mystery of death has been solved. It no longer holds the same gravity it once did.
If you’re looking for deep philosophical revelations… Like Archimonde, you’re barking up the wrong tree.
I am not. I have already made my point as clear as I can.
If you don’t get it then I can do nothing more.
The more everyone tries to rationalize Shadowlands, the less it makes sense. Let’s just be legends and admit SL was birthed by the nightmares of an inbred chihuahua-pug mix with skunky diarrhea and forget it ever happened. I’m only tolerating this expansion because I’m collecting all the pets and appearances.
Shadowlands is the sort of nightmare that frightens even Freddy Krueger
Sometimes I feel like people ignore the text that is present and then complain about the wrong things. There’s plenty to complain about in shadowlands, I think, but the mystery of death is not one of them.
We knew the realm of death was a think for a long time… so just exploring a small corner of it isn’t an issue to me.
A few years ago I let my pug Charlie lick one of my dinner plates clean- as I often do for my dogs. Unfortunately most of what he lapped up was ranch salad dressing.
THIS WAS A BAD IDEA.
Not sure much would really change.
First of all, how many people are going to believe these stories of the Shadowlands?
After that, consider how many religions are proven correct in some manner. Trolls all go to the Other Side, under the care of Bwonsamdi, and he’s always been a part of their religion. Perhaps the Night Elven pantheon might expand to include the Winter Queen and the likes of Lord Herne and Moonberry, but otherwise, nothing really changes for them. If you told the Orcs that there is an afterlife where your prowess and glory are further glorified with an eternity of honorable battle against powerful foes, they’d consider life to be nothing more than a long, boring tutorial, and just keep going as they are.
If knowledge of the four covenants on Azeroth is likely to change anyone, it’s those that fear cosmic karma, and don’t want to end up in Revendreth, but most people like that probably weren’t going to head there to begin with. The people who are likely to end up in Revendreth wouldn’t so easily buy into it even existing.
The only afterlife that might change things is Bastion, and that might just create some new religion/cult on Azeroth, since Light-Worshipers aren’t inherently inclined to go there to begin with. Its not like we see Tirion there. In fact, the only big-named Paladin in Bastion is Uther. We’ve no idea where any of the others are, aside from Mograine being in Maldraxxus.
Tirion was all about looking for every option to save a Plague-infected Paladin ultimately turning to the Naaru A’dal. He earned his place by looking into every chance to save a Paladin while Uther just wandered off at the Purging of Stratholme. He also refused to back down concerning saving an Orc he held a debt to regardless of who he had to kill to do it.
Morgraine was a pragmatist and entertained the notion of dealing with the Forsaken as a potential threat. He earned his spot in Maldraxxus.
In the end Uther’s values(Morality and Justice) were of the same sort as the Kyrian(which is about Virtue) not the Light(which is about Dedication) nor the Maldraxxi(which is about War).
The news of Bastion and Maldraxxus will make Paladins look inward and wonder how one actually gets to the Light and how one gets to Bastion or Maldraxxus!
They will eventually look at the tales of Bridenbrad and Uuna to see how they got invitations into the Light and notice that they both inspired Dedication towards them and prop up tales of the Light being about Dedication not Purity, Courage, Wisdom, Humility, Loyalty or Devotion.
The tales will probably note the failure of Loyalty and it being replaced with Devotion when propping up the Death Magics of the Kyrian in Azerothian religions.
The new Religion would be a Church of Virtue with the Church of the Light switching fully to Dedication being it’s chief ideal.
Yeah I think this is pretty significant for paladins-- because we still don’t know what a light afterlife looks like, or if it even exists.
We know it exists by the fact that it offered a place to Uuna while still giving her permission to stay with the Player.
We just don’t know what it looks like.
Although… Considering the Naaru Ships’ aesthetic we can take a guess at what the Architecture looks like. Crystal Spires and Cities!
My concerns is on world building, curiously you are constantly failing to understand that.
You seems to want representation for the sake of it without caring about the universe and what it can bring.
For the worgen it was just one idea to try to give some uniqueness for the Human race, again you fail to understand that.
I was also against the race swapping as it breaks immersion but i was all in for opening new buildings in Stormwind to add diverses characters.
It’s also curious that you are labeling someone who want to see new cultures and nations centered around these black races in the game as a racist.
Shouldn’t you support the idea to make them more than “they are in the game just for blue checkmarks”?
If i have a fixation, it’s this one because i despise the woke ideology from the USA as it has done so much harm between individuals and devastations in many cultural products.
Oh and in France most people have an universalist view on races, not inherently racist as you seem to believe.
Yes we have our own problems but we are trying to bring equality by giving the same chance to everyone, not by using reverse racism like the USA begin to be renown of.
And by the way attacking someone because he is from a specific country is a form of racism so clean up your door and pass your prejudices before calling out other people.
Not quoted everything but i like your idea.
The only problem is that the writers made the Light and the Death as separate realms in their new cosmology so it’s quite doubtful that the Arbiter will send a soul to another realm.
Take the lightforged, you can’t find being closer to the Light than them and yet i found some lightforged souls in Bastion.
So except if the Naaru is quick enough to pick the soul before the Kyrian, it’s unlikely that a paladin will go to the Light despite his devotion.
Maybe the problem may be simpler than we think: What if the problem is…misconception and misinformation?
Think about it: The paladin see a blue angel before him, he can think that he is an envoy for the light who will lead him to the Light paradise and can believe that Bastion is this paradise - Mograine seemed to believe that before being told that the Light is a minor force
But what if, instead to follow the Kyrian, the paladin know all of this and call the Light first instead?
What if the Light needs a prayer as a beacon to find the soul to be able to pick him before the Kyrian?
It’s possible that the exceptions are the souls like Bridenbrad who shine the Light so brightly that the Naarus don’t need such beacon.