You quoted and responded to me.
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Yes but when you say things like:
When i wasn’t making any argument, just answering someone elses question.
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I’m not directing that at you. @_@
Ok, thats what i was asking. I appreciate it.
good players will roll you and smoke you in whites.
the gap between a good pvp player and someone that presses all their cooldowns only to go in and get cced until it all goes away. is very very big.
gear is the reward and it will only expedite the process.
complaining about gear is a cop out. crafted pvp gear is a few ilvls behind the highest level of pvp gear. and the mid point which is only single digits behind ilvls from the highest is easily obtainable without any ranks or gates.
now if youre complaining that you lost against someone cuz they have 3 ilvls more than you overall. you need to check yourself out and either get good or go away lol.
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It’s not. Skill > gear.
My sides are now in the interstellar medium, the idea that wow pvp is skill based compared to literally any other game out there would be cute if it wasn’t such a deeply embarassing opinion to have.
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Some find it fun. That is the point.
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Nah people just think they are better than they actually are.
You can tell the difference between a good player and a bad player when you actually know the difference
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When I read stuff like this, it’s hard not to see the incredible amount of arrogance players like you have. You don’t PvP and yet you feel the confidence to weigh in on a topic you know nothing about.
What’s embarrassing is not even having a basic understanding the of the game, like yourself, and yet feeling the need to share that with everyone. The reason a lot of us enjoy PvP in wow is because of the massive depth in play it has. It’s almost frustrating how much complexity it has and the difficulty it takes to get new players to join.
If you want to bash PvP, at the very least, show that you even have the most basic understanding. Until then, the only embarrassing thing here is your opinion.
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I feel confident that everything I’ve read about how WoW PVP works tells me Bliz decided to make every wrong decision along the way.
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Pretty sure it’s to kill the other player.
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to quote the original developers…PVE based game with the ABILITY to PVP… itsd how the entirew system was designed from the ground up originally… its also a game designed to originally be easy to play Hard to master…personal opinion the more they moved away from these two design philosophies the lower the subscription rate got and continues to get…
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You have no idea. You don’t even play it. PvP is just an extension of PvE. If you enjoy PvE, but without the script, that’s PvP. I do both and they both have their enjoyable aspects.
That said, to say blizz has done everything wrong is just flat out ignorant. There are millions of players that still do PvP in wow in one form or another. While there are always things that could be improved upon, there isn’t anything like it. Every wow pvp killer has gone and went.
I would love to see them invest more in to PvP and actually respond to feedback, but that’s true of all aspects of this game.
Regardless, you don’t PvP, so spare us your ignorance and arrogance.
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That doesnt sound right. Most people dont have the ability.
Yeah your PvE player echo chamber is a great source on how fun PvP is 
everyone with zero experience weighing in and giving their opinions on something they have no idea about.
Meanwhile a bunch of pvpers are here telling you gear isn’t that big a deal, it’s also very easy to get and PvP is extremely fun.
But by all means enjoy your echo chamber.
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No, I’ve asked PVP players to explain the system, the gearing, and so on.
As a matter of fact PVP players describing the terrible design decisions as positives is far more horrifying.
What PVPers are you talking to, like what level are they, casual, high end etc? What is so horrifying about what they’re saying?
You should also try experience it for yourself instead of asking others about it.
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It doesn’t change the very obvious fundamental issues.
As long as the gearing is the way it is, pretending it’s not gear-based, especially compared to GW2 where I played ranked for many a season, or ESO where the only way gear matters in PVP is what abilities the gear sets give but otherwise all gear is and has long been on an equal footing, is completely deluded.
It changes a lot and what fundamental issues? What issues, you aren’t naming them.
So, you’re obviously talking to casual PVPers… this is why I asked.
No, gear is not the issue and nobody worth anything is going to blame gear, the better players are the better players because they’re in-fact better than you are, not because they’re more geared than you are.