And all this before you even try the changes? I could understand if people decided to quit after trying the proposed changes, but this preemptive anger doesn’t make sense to me. I know change can be hard sometimes, and maybe it will be so terrible that you want nothing to do with it, but you may as well wait and see the changes for yourself.
There are plenty of things that I assumed I’d hate. I was one of those that had an initial dislike of dragonriding just from the way it was being described. I was so sure that I was going to be one of those that stuck to regular flight or even quit, because a ‘limited’ flight mode sounded terrible to me. And then I played it and found that I actually really liked it.
Sometimes this doesn’t happen though and whatever I initially thought was terrible is terrible. But at least I tried it you know.
But if it’s too much. Of course, you can leave, sometimes people just get tired and don’t want to continue. Sometimes even the idea of a change like this pushes you over the edge. And if that’s true I want to say I wish you good luck with whatever you decide to do moving forward.
I also listened to that interview and I do not think like ~5 people to make a video game UI is small at all, that sounds about right. That’s pretty standard even to make one from scratch for a brand new game.
I went and looked and FFXIV has about ~5 people working on the UI and that was for A Realm Reborn when they completely recreated the game.
Addon authors signed up for this. They signed up to be Alpha testers, with the explicit intention being that they provide feedback on what is needed to make the API work for addons.
No one else but the addon authors know how their particular coding for their particular addons work.
Without feedback to Blizzard, there is no chance for the correct portions of the API to be opened up.
I get their frustration. But I don’t want to see authors just throw in the towel. Without their feedback, we won’t get anything.
That’s not even a good rebuttal. People are going to clear stuff regardless.
The question is, how many people will stay once their customization is removed without a viable replacement? THAT is what you should be asking. Not creating redundant/pointless questions.
They already said you will still have the ability to customize your UI after the update. They are now just making a lot of the features of addons baseline provided with the game.
Combat addons that show rotations, and tell you exactly what to do will be disabled, and thats because they are adding that information in their encounters and base UI.
How many will come back when they here about all the changes being made to the game overall to be more approachable?
Nobody can answer either.
I’m guessing the answer to both will be not many. If the content is good, people will play it and make it do with the new UI. If its bad, people will drop out just like they did in SL despite having addons.
Most UI addons are going to be hindered and near impossible to update and work around their restrictions.
Thus the entire thread about elvui throwing in the towel for now. People seem to think this is limited to combat addons only for whatever reason. ANYTHING that has access to your personal resources (energy/mana), your hp, etc are being broken.
There is probably an even deeper ui framework being blocked too that most of us don’t understand. But the addon devs understand it well enough to stop working on midnight’s updates.
Welp, the addon devs are going to have to learn to create new and improved addons with Blizzards new API.
To be clear, Blizzard is not taking away addon developer’s ability to create addons, they may just now have to start over using the new API and use the base UI to piggy back off of for their addons.
This gets tiring. Do you have nothing else better to add to the conversation rather than copy pasting this for the 100th time? This isn’t funny despite how much you want it to be.
Also, I don’t think people are recognizing how much UX design Blizzard made just for Dragonflight, they only focus on the edit mode stuff. But there was also Dragon riding, the entire overhaul of the crafting UI, the rep UI, the talent point UI, etc. There was A LOT of UX design in Dragonflight in the span of developing it, they are completely capable of doing that again in Midnight.
Same with TWW, all of the UX design for delves and stuff too.
You may put blizzard on a pedestal but people can quit for whatever reason they like. I’ve been playing for 10+ years and this is the lowest I’ve seen blizzard,just not because of “customization” but other decisions. You can continue praising a corporation but not everyone’s going to love blizzard just because you say so.
So they’re intentionally showing us underwhelming examples of what they’re capable of producing, so they can unveil a masterclass in UX design with the real launch?
Probably because they had more to do than just flesh out edit mode like I said. I’m glad because all the other stuff I listed was equally important, but now they can do more in Midnight.
Plenty of veteran players are fine with changes being made to the game, like class pruning and dialing back mechanics with reduced addons. You can see a mix of responses about the class pruning in any thread about it. (Aside from a few exceptions like fire mage that are mostly negative)
And I didn’t say anything about “new players”, I said returning players.
Likewise. You don’t like the direction, so you just assume everyone else will quit so then Blizzard will have to revert changes you don’t like.
I don’t even like how they are handling addons. But it will be fine and in the long run it may be a good thing for the game. I’m just not a doomer and willing to give it a chance. Saying you quit right now over something you can’t see in action yet is silly.
My point was all that stuff you mentioned was on release. DF released almost 3 years ago and we haven’t seen any kind of major updates to edit mode since to even give us a HINT of what addons give us now.
And they expect us to go cold turkey in midnight and deal with whatever they’ve cooked up in a few months.
