died in combat and we finished the fight but its a trek back to body and i ran out of rp to help
its not hyperbolic if it keeps happening
If it keeps on happening you and your group are bad. You should know that you are the only one that can rez and respond to that in keeping enough RP for after the fight, or you know… rez them while you are in battle instead of going PARSES MATTER!
How does this scenario affect getting invited to a raid group?
I’ll consider what DK brings equal to any other class when bosses start inflicting Arcane Stupidity to nullify mage buffs or Mark of the Civilized to make druid buff irrelevant.
It’s always “But death Grip” and somehow that passes even though it’s useful on one boss per season, and top guilds usually find engineering toys to avoid picking DK anyway.
Why are we having a conversation where one side is okay with an entire class being sidelined for an engineering toy
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Things like that toy should definitely not be a thing you can use in raids/dungeons. But then asking for a raid buff isn’t the correct way about asking for a solution.
There’s two ways to make this even in my opinion. Give DK a raid buff like every other class has, making at least one raid spot a given, or make DK top dps permanently because they don’t have group utility power budgeted in for 90% of group content, and that budget gets to go elsewhere.
But we know how the latter would go.
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With all due respect, I don’t think either of those are good solutions. I think (and data has shown so far) that DK in general is one of the better classes at the moment, design-wise. That leaves looking at the outliers who have too much utility, to be the most logical thing to do.
Mage buffs arent useful to the entire raid. Quit complaining.
Death Grip is a dps increase for everyone when used properly. People want to talk about knockbacks being equal to or better but never explain how these classes have to use these knockbacks.
Also, DK isnt being sidelined. If you are being sidelined then its a you as a person problem, not the class. People dont want to play with whiny complainers all the time that blame the class instead of themselves for their mistakes.
Great cherry pick but Versat and Stam buffs are definitely universally helpful.
But you’re Kelliste. You deserve as much respect for your opinions as an opossum with brain damage.
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They could have at least committed to grip being our “raid buff”, as asinine as that is, and at least given gorefiends to the general tree. Their logic with shaman should apply to dk as well. Do not understand their perspective tbh. Hope numbers stay okay… hope theres a grip fight this tier… Hope that grip fight isnt the last fight of the raid on mythic where 99% of the dk player base won’t make it to… hope…
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I didnt cherry pick anything. You are the one that brought it up.
See. I just responded to what you brought forward. The other one that you brought up was Mark of the Wild.
Oh get off your little high horse. You brought the nonsense up and you dont like being called out for your poor take.
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This was the most concerning part by far.
The fact that he didn’t know it takes 2+ dps DK’s to do the job of 1 blood DK is wild.
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Amz is not a raid buff, especially not for dps DK as it is significantly worse for them. It’s a group defensive
Amz, darkness and rallying cry are no where close to as impactful as chaos brand and battle shout.
Nobody says oh man I really wish we had a DK for amz for this dungeon.
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