That’s a privileged stance when the narrative caters to your races/faction.
The alternative is assimilation not diversity. It’s about inclusion not exclusion in this case.
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Couldn’t choose so:
The first one about opening the can of worms. Yeah I know.
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Nah cuz we dont know their origins and have yet to be told them.
Hell maybe Pandaren also aren’t wild god children.
But yeah Tauren being fought over by Winter Queen and Bwonsamdi would be fun
WQ “B W O N S A M D I THEY ARE BOVINE AND DESCENDED OF A YAK RACE. THERE IS A YAK WILD GOD”
Bwon “well MOTHER if you BOTHERED to ask Niuzao you would KNOW he INSISTS they aren’t his children”
WQ “They worship my sister and brother!”
Bwon “But they walk the veil and talk to their ancestors”
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Remember that?
Fun? The lore and world building serving to build up our races which serve as the backdrop of our characters which are the vehicles through which we engage with the game?
Rather than the devs banal and tedious soap opera where every single patch campaign is centered on two characters?
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The Winter Queen and Mueh’zala stood on either side of a twisty crick that ran through the woods. Each was wearing a faded blue overalls and a straw hat, and were pointing shotguns at the other.
“Them-there’s MAH souls, I reckon!” The Winter Queen drawled warningly.
Mueh’zala spat out a wad of chewing tobacco. “Oh, yew reckon, does ya? Well, I reckon, you reckon wrong!” He flicked the safety off.
In the distance, banjo music began to play ominously. Well, as ominously as banjo music could get.
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Imagine if they used an Aggressively Irish accent for the winter queen
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… how are they SO BAD at writing the characters they’ve had for YEARS?
The new characters introduced for just an expansion/zone are mostly all FINE- Rastakhan, Talanji, Fylnn, Katherine, Zelling, Lady Waycrest and her gathering group of witch-hunters, the two Zandalari guards in Voldun, Theotar, Kleia, Marileth, Renathal. Bwomsamdi got very very lucky.
Meanwhile, the actual ‘focus characters’ of the ‘story’:
ANDUIN: I AM GOOD
SYLVANAS: I THINK I AM GOOD, BUT AM DELUDING MYSELF
ANDUIN: I AM GOOD
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I think it helps that minor characters like them are mostly self-contained in their zones and probably have a clearer start-to-finish path that won’t get muddled as badly if the main plot shifts in direction. If you get the beancounters breathing down your neck about “The market patterns show that Anduin falling into darkness will boost expansion sales!” and you’re told you have to connect the dots from there, then I guess you just have to hold your breath and hope whatever you write doesn’t crash too badly.
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I think also the fact the zone teams seem to have more autonomy free of Danuser & Co.
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I’d rather that they advance the lore that they already have rather than add massive amounts of new lore every expansion. That’s how things end up feeling bloated and it’s always bothered me how weak the continuity between expansions is as a result.
Like MoP. Yeah, they introduced an absolute ton of new lore and worldbuilding but as a result, the story itself starting spinning its wheels as the focus shifted to being All Pandas All The Time. To this day I find it absolutely hilarious that the entire strategic focus of the war in Cataclysm shifted to Pandaria making or breaking the war effort for absolutely no reason.
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Since it seems to be a focus of discussion in this thread I want to reiterate that it’s not a single person here’s responsibility to stay subbed to WoW to support “the good ones” at Blizzards. We’re not the ones treating them poorly and not paying them enough to live comfortably by unsubbing.
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The dumb thing was that in MoP, they had the tool to avoid that problem: Scenarios.
I mean, you want to focus the xpac on the Pandaren theatre of this global war? Great - not a problem. But show us the scope and breadth of the war - use the scenario tool that you introduced in MoP to send us to some of the other theatres and battles. Make it actually feel like a world war.
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This has weighed heavily on my mind as of late. And as much as I don’t think it’s our responsibility to support the good ones and I agree with you completely, it’s not fans responsibility at all, I think the guilt of supporting the bad ones for so long seems ironic that the moment this company tries to improve itself we no longer feel obligated to support it.
We should feel more obligated to support the company now while it’s making strives for change. If the change is important to how we enjoy the game, we should be supporting the good ones, they are the future of this franchise (if this franchise does have a future at all, that’s still up in the air)
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I’ll support them once I see the change. Before I give them another dime I want to see true accountability, and I want to see a good product actually released. Then I’ll support them. It seems totally backwards to me to feel obligated to support a company because they have victims under their employment. Honestly, that feels like someone’s desperate rationalization to keep playing the game. Reframing the situation so they don’t have to feel bad about monetarily supporting a company who has been sexually assaulting women for years.
There is more work out there. If they got hired at Blizz, then they have the talent to compete in the market. It seems entirely backwards to me to fund the company that turned a blind eye to their abuse for years to spare them from temporary unemployment.
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Unemployment in this current economic landscape is not something I would easily wish on others, deserving or otherwise, but especially not for the undeserving.
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This is the crux of it. Flowery language and two or three big names getting the boot isn’t enough. Plus the people who seem to be innocent in all this that have big names are some of the worst offenders to the quality of the product.
Danuser’s done nothing but perpetuate Afrasiabi’s mistreatment of women in power within the narrative of Warcraft but this controversy isn’t going to see him booted out the door cause he kept his hands to himself.
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Actually, more people are choosing unemployment in this economic landscape. I do the books for several small businesses, and all of them, 100% are dying trying to find people willing to work for them. Believe me, they wouldn’t have issue finding employment.
I am more concerned with not funding actual scum, rather than monetarily encouraging women to work in a sexist and abusive environment.
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Are you sure that’s not just your small businesses have a toxic work culture? do these small businesses you do book keeping for pay thier employees a livable wage? those seem more plausible reason why your companies are loosing business than people wanting to be unemployed. People want fair employment.
But that’s completely irrelevant to the topic and again supports why we should be support a union for Blizzard workers.
Plus the gaming industry is know to be toxic, moving to other companies doesn’t fix the problem with the gaming industry.
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No because it’s literally the same issue across the entire US. My state has a living wage as the minimum wage and small businesses can’t find help. Hell fast food chains like Burger King around here have to close their sit in and eat areas cause they only have enough staff to run the drive thru.
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