Was this an autocorrect, a typo, or what you meant to say?
Typo but i’m going to stand by it 
Rogues need a tank spec.
Tanks have to know every pull, mob, mechanic, and current-season route.
It’s a lot of prep work. The barrier to entry is enough to turn most off and the pressure once you’ve learned it all turns even more away.
No idea how to fix it though.
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Well with the way the community/pugs treat tanks…are you honestly surprised?
Eh?
No.
Just because we’re in the same guild doesn’t mean we have to do M+ or other content all together.
Each member should worry and equip on their own.
Because there’s a shortage of tanks for average players (ie non raiders), that means that guild members have to pug their content, and run directly into that tank shortage.
Was casually doing some heroics for satchel. I am 400 I level.
So basically nothing can kill me in the dungeon. I was pulling what I needed to progress and complete the dungeon efficiently.
But the toxic 3 man in the group with his 699 io was pulling everything.
I was thinking and this is why new tanks quickly find a guild and do runs with them. Leading to a shortage of tanks.
Something to learn here dps
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I just started tanking and I’m loving it. I’m never doing anything beyond lfd or lfr though. I do not do that big pull nonsense either. My runs may be slow but it’s almost always a clear on the first go. I honestly thought I was doing terrible but so many people in the dungeons were constantly encouraging me. If someone here wants to tank but is too scared to try, I have this to say. Jump headfirst in. Don’t be afraid to completely fail. Ask questions and always be humble no matter what anyone is saying, and you will find that the community will be very supportive. The majority doesn’t care about bigpulls, mythic+, heroics or any of that other stuff. They just want you to clear the dungeon. Give it a go friends. If this coward turned tank can do it then there is hope for you yet.
Let’s say if the Ilvl the dungeon provides is higher then the current equipped ilvl they should get a beating after a while
Correct. Usually how that works. Usually lol
I have no way to back this up, I only speak from experience.
Healers have no problem doing DPS if necessary (I mean changing Spec or even class).
Tanks also have no problem in doing DPS.
But DPS very very rarely have what it takes to do any of the other 2 roles.
Either because it’s difficult, because of the pressure, because they don’t feel like learning, or because they just don’t like it.
So… yes, it’s obvious that there will be a lack of tanks or healers when players who can do it don’t do it even when using a class that is capable of doing it.
And this is a problem generated by both the community and Blizzard.
The community generates “social pressure” so to speak. It doesn’t give the tank/healer time to learn his role.
That player has to know what to do from the first second or the other players simply tell him that he is a bad player, stop playing and die.
And then Blizzard, who does absolutely NOTHING to help tanks and healers.
Every expansion that passes both tanks and healers have more responsibility on their shoulders.
Which further increases the pressure from the community.
This is not something that has come about organically. It is a direct result of changes Blizzard has made to the game designed to make content harder to pug.
But even before this, back in Legion, my tanks in guilds who were not raiders got no help. If I announced a key, the members who volunteered to “help” were so embarrassingly bad that I ended up just using the group finder to put in strangers. No good players in guilds will help. And this is partly due to the exhausting amount of work they have to do themselves.
Bad players in PuGs. The game is not bad nor hard in an organized group.
There is a tank shortage because tanking isn’t enjoyable for a lot of people. The constant toxicity from players and the “rush rush rush” mentality on everything pushes people away. I haven’t tanked since Wrath, and that was only with guild groups. The expectations of pugs is such that it just isn’t any fun for me. I can barely stomach the “rush rush rush” while doing dungeons just to finish quests as DPS.
Heck, I used to main healers from BC through Cata, but it just became unenjoyable being constantly stressed to keep up every run. Not to mention no one paying attention to your mana levels.
TLDR; it’s not going to change because the current culture and play style makes those roles unenjoyble for a lot of people. At least so far as pugs, and even a lot of guild runs are concerned.
It’s the play style, not skill level that alienates most people from tank and healer roles. Being constantly stressed as opposed to just tagging along and killing stuff. A lot of us have leadership roles that require attention to detail and stress at work, be damned if I’m going to take it on in a hobby.
I tanked all the way up to key stone master in BFA by only tanking pugs. It was one of the worst experiences of gaming and something I wouldn’t wish upon any other player in the game.
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I’s a little more difficult in this expansion, but as long as you’re on point with your stagger, and purges, it’s not too bad. As I stated earlier, I had a BM monk since MoP, and that was about the same as currently.
I am speaking from experience…
The vast majority of bad players is because they refuse to accept that they are bad and need help or because they simply don’t “care to see a guide, it’s a game and not a job interview.”
They want to help, but they don’t help themselves first and when you want to help them they insult your whole family.
There are very few who accept help.
And many have all the basics, they just need an addon or don’t know about macros.
When DPS stop pulling for the tank, stop standing in bad forcing the healer to divert heals from the tank, and actually interrupt something… then maybe you’ll see more tanks in pugs.
This is a DPS being tunnel vision idiots issue… not a tank shortage issue. Plenty of people would like to play tanks, but no one wants to deal with self-important DPS players who think the only thing that matters is how big their DPS meter is.
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