still crossing my fingers we will get some sort of compensatory change for this nerf.
sigh…
OK, then why are they not changing every other spec/class that has higher APM than ele did with it for ‘accessibility’? Because it’s a false narration.
Well considering basically no one in-game would have access to the items to allow them to actually PLAY with it prior to the nerf…
The only complaints would have been from Blizzard employees. So again, they’re just forcing changes into the game that THEY want and saying ‘the players’ wanted it because hey! They’re technically players.
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Step off it Maizou we have 500 responses in one thread numerous things calling out other classes have far greater ‘accessibility’ issues and they weren’t adjusted.
We have approaching 300 here and multiple communities that are livid over this.
This change was made to screw people who enjoyed the class and they put a simple lie up as the reason otherwise those other classes would of been ‘adjusted’ and there would of been a back and forth with developers, instead of just complete silence from one side despite a near hundred suggestions
In addition they could of simple hard locked us to a 1 second GCD and then it wouldn’t of even been a registerable nerf and solve the ‘accessibility’ issue.
Then again it wasn’t about accessibility as the whole thing has been a false narrative and blizzard has been silent the entire time and what has the community council done? Lol nothing.
So we will call you when we want your opinion or assistance on the matter thanks.
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If you post a thread on a public forum, I am more than welcome to post on it. If you want a closed conversation, use discord.
Until then, no, I won’t. Because you’re actively fighting to undo an accessibility issue.
Just because it doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it didn’t affect anyone.
You guys are just so stuck on the idea this is a personal attack and couldn’t possibly actually be an accessibility issue that you’re ignoring there have quite literally been people telling you it was an issue for them.
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Care to cite that? Ah, you won’t or can’t.
Just because someone claims it affects someone, doesn’t mean it did affect anyone.
Weird take from someone announcing how many people they’ve ignored on the forums lately. 
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Ahh yes the vaunted community council good for nothing but complaining about the lack of master looter.
You know what you could of done, made a post about how there should be proper communication and justification by developers on things and to not make kneejerk changes that dumpster entire classes into oblivion.
What have you done? You’ve defended the change and told us to pound sand.
There is no accessibility issue because the only one that stepped forward also openly stated they play something that has a 20%higher apm requirement than we do with a tier set none of us even have yet, no other class has been made so accessible to the trash can that no single group wants us.
As I said Maizou when we want a puppet’s attention we will ask for it.
Ps I’m saying this as someone that has to use foot pedals to play the damn game because my left wrist is screwed and any intense movement on the right causes significant pain in 5 years I’ve had 7 operations on my hands, wrists and elbows to maintain functionality.
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And not once have I told any of them they aren’t allowed to post, now have I? No. However, you and two others tonight have told me to shut up and stop posting.
And yet again I say, no one owes anyone public acknowledgment that they had an issue.
As someone who has issues with their hand that I’m not going into, I can safely say I 1000000000% believe someone had an issue with it. The machine gun spec actually hurts my hand when I play it, which is one of the main reasons I haven’t played my shaman this xpac. You may not understand it, but spam clicking the mouse or pressing a key that fast is painful for some people. I can’t even write a basic letter without stopping multiple times from my hand feeling like it’s being stabbed.
Sure, I could spec into something else, but I would be significantly behind other shaman in the same gear because of how it was tuned. I wouldn’t have said they need to nerf it, because I simply opted not to play my shaman, and as such have given zero feedback on shaman in the CC forum, or even the main forums (Before any of you accuse me of somehow causing this) But there are others who would have similar hand problems who would WANT to play their shaman and not be forced to take a dps loss. So I have zero doubts someone sent blizzard feedback about it.
If you guys think it’s unfair, feel free to send blizzard feedback about the other specs you feel have a “machine gun” spec. I’ve yet to see any.
And again, you should be fighting for a buff in other ways to make up for the nerf, instead of trying to make the game worse for the people who needed the change.
If they add a buff in another place to make up for it, I may very well start playing my shaman again. Because then I can use the spec I like without pain.
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I can safely say that we all believe your pulling it out of your rear end at this point especially taking a look at your post history and how quick you are pulling these posts out.
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Wrong.
Yet again.
Did you test it? Did the person involved test it, that was a player and not a Blizzard employee? I don’t believe it, because of how early in the release for tier set stuff it is.
https://simulationcraft.org/reports/T21_Raid.html BM has the same APM as Ele prior to the change. Curious, that.
OP sure did, and many others in the shaman forums and elsewhere. You sure don’t read a lot of the forums for a CC member, claiming "I didn’t see any’ Just like you claimed you have seen ZERO fan art of Whitemane throughout your entire playing WoW but HUNDREDS of Onyxia.
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Curious that I don’t play BM and have been rather open about that on the forums, isn’t it?
You literally just quoted a post you made telling me to stop posting while simultaneously telling me I’m lying that you ever said it.
Are you okay?
Ah, the old “I can’t rebut what they say so I’ll just call them a liar” approach.
Except apart from what I googled tonight, I really have not seen any Whitemane fanart but I have seen plenty of Katrana Prestor art.
But sure, just tell me what I’ve seen in my life, I’m sure you, who has only known me a few weeks max, knows better than me, the person who experienced his entire life.
A whole 6 less button presses per minute! So many less buttons. Meanwhile, fury warrior is… 71 actions per minute, a whole 21 ahead of ele or BM currently.
No, I told you to stop giving your input on things you don’t know much about. I never told you to stop posting.
Sounds like a question for yourself, not me.
Like you did to us?
I mean if you genuinely haven’t, then maybe you should get out more, research more on the subject instead of just spouting the anecdote in that case as a reason why ‘that character can’t be popular’.
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We have rebutted your argument.
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Except the part where i said the change is fine for accessibility reasons but not buffing it in other places isn’t okay.
But sure, if you want to ignore the important part, why not.
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Telling someone to stop giving input IS telling them to stop posting.
This isn’t rocket science.
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Stop giving input ON THINGS YOU DON’T KNOW MUCH ABOUT.
You’re right, it’s not rocket science.
If ele needed an ‘accessibility change’ for adding APMs over 50, then why wasn’t one made for all specs/classes above 50 APM? It doesn’t make much sense. Especially fury warriors. That’s why people are questioning it so heavily, it wasn’t even the highest APM yet that’s the claim they went with. BEFORE actual players got to test it getting their tier set pieces in game.
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Mindless puppet is what they are, just ignore they exist.
the accessibility part of it can be completely resolved by simply putting your LB on your scroll wheel. secondly you will not be sitting just spamming LB. you have to weave in LvB and ES. you will be casting 3-6 times depending on procs of LvB and overload to get in ES.
Thats pure ST.
In Aoe that we have been doin all expac so far this has not been an issue to cast CL at the same rate. the difference is that we “were” now able to have much more access to the reduced cast time than before. but even then we will not be only casting CL or LB. we have to weave in other spells a decent amount.
I have played many classes including warrior where no ones cares that you smash buttons fast AF.
accessibility is not the problem here. it never was. they dont currently want ele sham to do this spec. and thats the truth and the problem.
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Going on nearly a week without a response. Ridiculous
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arguments in here aside… blizzard must be crafting a masterful lengthy response to all of this considering how long it is taking & how fast they responded to flame shock ENH feedback.
can’t wait to read it!
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daily bump hoping blizzard notices us and acknowledges our existence