I love how out of proportion everything is getting blown, like people are working themselves up over very little information. Man I bet diablo immortal is gonna charge us per level, and make us wait 6 hours to cast spells unless we buy more gems or caches of legendaries. World of warcraft is going to be mobile and you'll have to use candy crush mechanics to cast one spell but you can buy super boosts to make it so you can cast two spells. And then they're going to cancel every game they've ever made that's not mobile and everything will be gone.
That's just a sampling of basically 60% of the forums right now lol. How about we let a fire start before we panic that there is one eh? I don't think mobile games are the best because I hate draining my phone battery but I was pleasantly surprised by hearthstone (though it does have a pc client too.) and I'm hoping their current plans for other games in the future will be as polished and interesting as well.
11/07/2018 12:37 PMPosted by Sinelushis affects the future of WoW heavily, with devs being moved to mobile projects,
I'm not sure how people can make statements like this without any level of insider knowledge. Unless you work or have worked for Blizzard, how do you KNOW for sure how their business functions?
In the past Blizzard has stated that they do not 'move' developers from one project to another - if they start something new they hire people to work on it. Many times I've seen advertisements by Blizzard for these sorts of positions when they have projects in the works.
The idea of pulling people from a hugely financially successful game like WoW to work on another WoW project to the degree that it actually threatened WoW is rather lame, not to mention fiscally dumb. If there is one thing Activision and Blizzard care about, its making money. They would not damage a product that brings in such a large slice of that income.
People need to be a more sensible about these things.
we already have a wow mobile game, it's called hearthstone.
They moved the game director for WoW to an unannounced project within the last year. Jay Wilson was moved from D3 to WoW years ago.11/07/2018 02:51 PMPosted by EleanIn the past Blizzard has stated that they do not 'move' developers from one project to another - if they start something new they hire people to work on it. Many times I've seen advertisements by Blizzard for these sorts of positions when they have projects in the works.
They removed mentions of Warcraft from Hearthstone at least a year ago. It's its own IP at this point.11/07/2018 02:51 PMPosted by Greeneggwe already have a wow mobile game, it's called hearthstone.
They moved the game director for WoW to an unannounced project within the last year. Jay Wilson was moved from D3 to WoW years ago.
Yes, they move individuals because obviously they have experience at working on Blizzard projects. They may even move team members for all I know - but they would be crazy to move large numbers, numbers that would damage their current game. And as I say, they have stated they don't do that and, that being from their own sources, I tend to believe that over unsubstantiated worryworts.
If they did NOT do this:
They would be like Sears is to Amazon.
You have to evolve. Sears would have still had a brick and mortar, but being the king of mail order catalogs they should have seen the writing on the wall and been already doing this LONG before Amazon arrived.
Fortnite came along, so everyone has to play "Catch up" now. It is a market they are not in, which is worth billions of dollars.
This is a "business." It doesn't mean they won't still make PC stuff, since there is money to be made there.
They would be like Sears is to Amazon.
You have to evolve. Sears would have still had a brick and mortar, but being the king of mail order catalogs they should have seen the writing on the wall and been already doing this LONG before Amazon arrived.
Fortnite came along, so everyone has to play "Catch up" now. It is a market they are not in, which is worth billions of dollars.
This is a "business." It doesn't mean they won't still make PC stuff, since there is money to be made there.
11/07/2018 12:28 PMPosted by Sinelushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVfw5O5c1g
Our PC days are numbered, Blizz is changing to a mobile based company and this wil send the PC portion into garbage level content. Get ready for WoW mobile everyone!
So thats why we got an unfinished beta for azeroth expansion
11/07/2018 12:37 PMPosted by Sinelus11/07/2018 12:32 PMPosted by Jubearlee
Can you name other video games that have been untouched and maintain a playerbase in the millions over a 14 year period, or is this just "the sky is falling" kind of arguments because you wanted to start a thread and get The Up Votes?
This affects the future of WoW heavily, with devs being moved to mobile projects, it damages what the identity of WoW was once, this would also explain the garbage level writing in BFA. If mobile ends up making more money, then they will turn into EA. I loved the early games EA once made years ago, but I haven't bought their games since they became money hungry and corrupt with micro transactions in everything and low quality games like Need For Speed Payback, a great IP once turned to a shadow.
This is what will happen to the current games Blizzard has if we don't react.
Well. It certainly explains why WoW has rapidly declined in quality over the last five years.
It also explains the lack of a PC Diablo release and the switch to mobile (yep, switch -- you don't just farm out one of your primary and cornerstone IPs for a one-off -- if there was going to be another PC release now was the time for it)
It's a real shame that Blizzard, being the small indie company that they are, don't have access to the finance or resources required to work on more than one product at a time.
11/08/2018 12:21 AMPosted by ShaftogarIt's a real shame that Blizzard, being the small indie company that they are, don't have access to the finance or resources required to work on more than one product at a time.
Well, definitely what they shouldn't do, is try to expand into new markets.
That's death for any business.
I believe WoW mobile is called hearthstone.11/07/2018 12:28 PMPosted by Sinelushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVfw5O5c1g
Our PC days are numbered, Blizz is changing to a mobile based company and this wil send the PC portion into garbage level content. Get ready for WoW mobile everyone!
11/07/2018 12:28 PMPosted by Sinelushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOVfw5O5c1g
Our PC days are numbered, Blizz is changing to a mobile based company and this wil send the PC portion into garbage level content. Get ready for WoW mobile everyone!
Will this doomsaying never end?
Because a company is expanding, does not mean they are changing to be mobile only.
THere may very well be a "Wow mobile"... but the Windows and Mac client will continue too.
B team confirmed.
11/08/2018 12:14 AMPosted by KypookinsIf they did NOT do this:
They would be like Sears is to Amazon.
You have to evolve. Sears would have still had a brick and mortar, but being the king of mail order catalogs they should have seen the writing on the wall and been already doing this LONG before Amazon arrived.
Fortnite came along, so everyone has to play "Catch up" now. It is a market they are not in, which is worth billions of dollars.
This is a "business." It doesn't mean they won't still make PC stuff, since there is money to be made there.
Agreed. I think this is the right move for the future of blizzard. It is a bit jarring since were playing a game that has roots to blizzard’s infancy over 20 years ago, but even then they diversified into online games with battle net.
Expanding out to mobile is not really an issue, the issue with the whole diablo thing is just how tone deaf they are to their community. And this really only came into light because if how tone deaf they are with wow or the fact they have done nothing new of significance with the Starcraft universe in years, it just compounded on it.
I fully expect them to do stuff with mobile, they would be stupid not to, just maybe not forget about your core games and the market that made you. They have benefited a lot from brand loyalty, so yes a sense of entitlement will come of that.
I fully expect them to do stuff with mobile, they would be stupid not to, just maybe not forget about your core games and the market that made you. They have benefited a lot from brand loyalty, so yes a sense of entitlement will come of that.
I remember a company called Kodak.
It was the top of the tree manufacturer and supplier of quality film cameras. It had all its development and planning directed towards producing quality film cameras.
Digital cameras became more generally available around 1990. Despite earlier experimenting with digital cameras, Kodak did not switch its direction towards the new digital format, and in January 2012, Kodak filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
I suspect that Kodak's story is very well known in techno companies, and particularly entertainment-based ones where the technology and methods changes so rapidly. For Blizzard Activision to sit on its laurels and do nothing would be suicidal, both for the company itself and for World of Warcraft.
I'd rather they invest in half a dozen mobile games if thats what it takes to keep WoW going.
It was the top of the tree manufacturer and supplier of quality film cameras. It had all its development and planning directed towards producing quality film cameras.
Digital cameras became more generally available around 1990. Despite earlier experimenting with digital cameras, Kodak did not switch its direction towards the new digital format, and in January 2012, Kodak filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
I suspect that Kodak's story is very well known in techno companies, and particularly entertainment-based ones where the technology and methods changes so rapidly. For Blizzard Activision to sit on its laurels and do nothing would be suicidal, both for the company itself and for World of Warcraft.
I'd rather they invest in half a dozen mobile games if thats what it takes to keep WoW going.
11/08/2018 12:29 AMPosted by SevairaExpanding out to mobile is not really an issue, the issue with the whole diablo thing is just how tone deaf they are to their community.
I'd agree the timing of the reveal, at blizzcon to existing pc-based diablo fans, was what I sometimes refer to as "less than optimally intelligent"
The project itself, will probably make money... but the timing.. was.. yeah.
Pathetic. I hate it when people get money hungry and want more and more and more all the while the people that got them their riches are tossed to the side and ignored.
When that day comes I can only pray that Blizz goes broke.
When that day comes I can only pray that Blizz goes broke.
Mobile games isn't a bad thing. Just expanding a market. Companies do that cause it makes money. That's what you want to do with a company, make money. There's still money in PC games, still in Console games. Mobile is a new market that they want to explore more. Again, not a bad thing.
I think we wouldn't be getting nearly as much of a response if Diablo Immortal stuck the landing better (reveal on the side Diablo 4 or not make the main focus Immortal).
I think we wouldn't be getting nearly as much of a response if Diablo Immortal stuck the landing better (reveal on the side Diablo 4 or not make the main focus Immortal).
11/08/2018 12:26 AMPosted by OleandraB team confirmed.
WoW being made by the B-team is an overstatement
It's C-tier at best