They said anything about this yet? Last news I heard was that they’re open to listening to players on this. Everyone, literally everyone, that I know in game wants Pre-Nerf content.
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No news on this, but you know they have been radio silence
I hope not. We’ve all seen how successful post-nerf raids have been (and pre-nerf heroics have not). Its common sense to release all of TBC in its post-nerf state.
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I hope you get guys get to experience pre nerf vashj this time so you can realize how badly designed it actually was.
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Fight was easy in 2021
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You think playing the game for 50 hours in a week to level an alt is normal. Your view on most stuff represents like 1% of the playerbase.
And I guarantee if you were to give your old tbc characters name and we checked logs, we would see several wipes on vashj.
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Just looked them up, we wiped 10 times and killed her on the 11th. “Hard” sure, but by no means was it so bad it needs to be nerfed.
Wiped 10 times to a 15 year old boss with hundreds of guides out. Full raid is probably close to BiS, sweats, parsing 90+, probably running the ideal comp.
The fight was hard for you. You think it’s completely normal to play wow for 40+ hours a week. Perspective
Hard for a top 5% player means impossible for the bottom 50%. 3 months of pre nerf 2021 vashj (hundreds of guides available). Only 35% of us and eu guilds killed her in the 3 months it was pre nerf.
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everyone that you know. you mean, the 9 other people you’re doing kara with?
if you want hard content, go do mythic raiding in retail. this is seasonal content, no time for prog raiding.
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I think anyone making an objective analysis of Vashj design would agree it’s a badly designed fight, which inflates its difficulty beyond what it otherwise reasonably should be. I’d rather P1 and P2 be harder with an easier P3 than it be what it is in pre nerf. My guild still got it pre nerf in Classic, but it’s easily the only fight I did not look forward to doing if we got it pre nerf.
And then you have KT right next to it showcasing how they can design an extremely fair and challenging fight with a reasonably similar level of difficulty.
I mean. It’s just rng mind control. It took my retail guild over a hundred pulls for mythic crown. Not sure how 10-15 wipes is “hard” is it bad design to have rng mind control that un CC able. Yes. However maybe instead of nerfing the entire raid you just fix vashj MC.
I’ve suggested this probably 20+ times on here in past posts already, arguing the pre vs post raids. Mc and poison clouds are complete rng and bad design. Targeted nerfs to those two mechs, and trash hp nerf would make the raids better.
10-15 wipes on a 20 yr old boss that has countless video guides available, and is the one difficulty available. A lot different than clearing mythic raids while they’re current content. And there are 3 levels of easier raid difficulties available.
I wanna say I read awhile back phase 1-4 are post-nerf and they’re open to phase 5 as pre-nerf
People don’t know what they want I promise if we get pre nerf thousands of guilds will fold lmao (not mine since we’re 18 world). The average retail player is bad, the average classic player is worse, and the average anni player is worse than that even.
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I think their silence on it kinda shows us we are just getting post nerf. They would be pretty dumb if they released it pre-nerf. They don’t want that hassle.
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The fact that they didn’t mention anything in the announcement makes me think it’s post nerf.
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Post nerf.
They didn’t say anything so it’ll be the same as it is now.
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“Mythic” should be the only retail raid difficulty. Get good if you wanna raid.
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This is the second time I’ve seen you relating wiping on something with being hard. Just because you wiped doesn’t mean it’s hard. Why are you so afraid of dying in a video game
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We are not getting prenerf SSC.
The Anni crowd is kinda dogwater compared to previous releases. Hardly anyone would clear raid, and people now have less gear because of the pace.
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