Didn’t some expansion/version allow for people to que for BGs and you may end up on either side, like horde would have an alliance face mask on or something if they wounded up on the alliance side of WSG games? I’m not really a PvP player, but curious how that went and if it made things better? Or was that only for same faction games and didn’t do any mix of factions on both teams?
A staple of classic is that your can progress even if you lose BGs. The current issue is that it’s vastly superior to lose when it comes to honor per hour for alliance. That’s easily fixed by lowering mark honor, and placing more honor within the objectives. The bonus to honor kills is plenty in my opinion, but I believe dads want more.
heh if you are truly saying everything shaman is broken and skews bgs just by their mere presence it wont matter even if its mixed cause there will almost always be more shaman or whatever op class you want to put up on the other team and thus being imbalanced.
that is unless you made queues like only capable of putting 3 shaman on each team or whatever other class you want .
you will never have any true balance. get over it.
btw none of this matters with the current meta of ab anyways.
its not as if there was any actual competition at all.
they can win, but their paladins will have to learn to slam cleanse/bops/freedoms properly. And they barely do that in pve.
While this would help balance each team its a large step to remove the faction war in classic.
Even then it wouldn’t necessarily solve the throwing issue. Since the goal is honor and not wins one team would still be incentivized to throw.
Honor gains has to be looked at first and foremost before implementing something like this.
Id be 100% ok with this. I doubt the framework to enable it exists in SoD so itd have to be ripped from Retail, reverse engineered into the SoD client and bugtested (kek) but id be okay with AvA, HvH or hell even mixed v mixed. Just throw an invisible buff on people with no duration that persists thru death that morphs them into the faction theyre playing as (think Orb of Deception or the CoT Hillsbrad/Stratholme effect but cooler) and call it good.
I love this idea. Weekly ladder and the higher teams get more “RP” that advances your rank bar dramatically.
You can’t play to lose then
Yeah, nah, that promotes discord coordinated win trading. Theres already been multiple discords on Whitemane and Faerlina over the years that were used to wintrade in such a way thatd perfectly take advantage of that setup.
team thats intended to lose rushes 3 nodes, autoattacks until dead
team thats intended to win 5 caps
team thats intended to lose fights at spawn gate, autoattacking and not healing until they die repeatedly until the game is over
repeat with roles reversed
Why do I not kbow about these discords having been deep into many large pvp communities
Dont be coy. You do know about them. Its just an unwritten rule that you dont take whats said or organized there outside of there.
But… oops. No honor among thieves and whatnot.
I don’t have any reason to lie.
My guild was literally the main devilsaur mafia on faerlina and I was one of the main coordinators.
If anyone is going to know about “shady opps and discords” it’s gonna be me
Nobody is wi trading BGs because in classic there were far too many BGs open.
If it were only 1 bg open sure, the possibility for trading is higher
You have every reason to lie. Your legitimacy is at stake if you don’t. If you didnt feign ignorance, one might think you were seconding a suggestion that you know has a very easily exploited loophole for less than pure reasons or with less than honest intentions.
I get it though.
This is a red herring.
If you know how “win trading” works, you’d know that the more BGS that are open, the harder it is to do it.
You are just arguing from an emotional standpoint.
Break it down for me.
How does an ally and a horde team get into the same game when there are 50 games open?
You could “count down” que, but as more games are open it still vastly lowers your chances of getting in
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Saying it doesnt speak it into reality. That suggestion has a loophole in it big enough to drive the USS Eisenhower through sideways. Its impossible to miss.
And the amount of oversight and luck required to catch someone exploiting said loophole costs more than Blizzard is willing to pay.
Its okay though. I get it.
And same goes for your claims.
You still didn’t break down for me how you’re gonna win trade a bg and Coord that with 50+ BGs open or even more
“Saying it doesn’t speak it into reality”
People win trade in arena all the time, most of them get banned. The only real way I can see this working is if you’re spamming BGs all day, there’s 50 to 100 games open and everytime you run into your friends you just take turns losing. This isn’t even gonna happen enough to matter and is essentially what people are doing right this second in ab so who cares?
You don’t completely forego game design just cause “sum1 might cheat”, if that were the case arena would be eliminated
It’s besides the point tho, I like that posters suggestion because it promotes winning to advance
Are you against winning to advance in any way?
its okay atleast rets are finally enjoying a good phase , unfortunately for them, your entire faction would rather drown themselves in AB then pvp so you cant even enjoy it.
bro this and the fact that the devs actually incentivized this with 0 thought to the repercussions (it should have been obvious, look at alliance queue times for even solo players vs. horde queue times FOR SEVERAL PHASES. THEY MADE IT THIS WAY WTF DID THEY THINK WOULD HAPPEN FOR THE FACTION THAT LOSES MAJORITY GAMES FOR EVERY PHASE AND HAS INSTANT QUEUE TIMES? LET’S JUST GIVE THEM 2 MARKS FOR LOSING THEY WILL SURELY STILL TRY TO WIN) killed any hype for P5 that I had.
I played 4 ABs and couldn’t stomach this garbage meta that is literally META. MOST EFFECTIVE TACTIVE AVAILABLE. for honor farming.
my class feels great to play, too bad the actual game sucks lmao
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No i dont want to share a team with paladins. Its world of warcraft not world of mixed faction teams
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I only needed 38k honor on my paladin. I not looking forward to grinding honor on him. I wasnt going to play ret but I have to agree its kinda fun.
I d rather have the alliance get shamans at this point and horde paladins. Human ret pallies are … not a demo group I d choose to pvp with