Water Strider Discussion

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

“They made all my hard work that I did a long time ago irrelevant!”

Guess what, they do that every expansion. This one just took them a bit longer.

And next expac when they take all the mount equipment away you will have nothing, And when i hear every one complaining I will remind you all the we tried to save some of this stuff but you all did not care.

[Hardwire-velen (Hardwire)]

They are removing water walking mounts from the game?

Well, yes, they are. No mount will have the intrinsic ability to water walk after 8.2 hits.

You will be able to reproduce the water walking effect via equipment, but that is contingent on the equipment remaining in game and working in future content. And as we all know, the dev team prefers equipment to be replaced each expansion.

[Aludren-stormrage]

The problem is it makes all mounts the same.
All mounts will be able to run on water.
Why not add a feather item so all mounts can fly?
Add a snorkel so all mounts give underwater breathing?
… it’s BORING.

How did this work back in vanilla days? There was only only a mount speed boost, “carrot on a stick,” and you had to gain rep to buy it AND you had to give up a trinket slot to use it! It meant effort to get AND it cost you ability while you used it.

I’ve been saying for a while, if they want to retard use of the water strider, just make it cap at 80% mount speed. No one will ride it unless they absolutely must to cross water. done, still unique, and costs you to use it.

It’s like the devs, or actually it’s probably the suits have ZERO imagination on how to make a game fun and interesting and do not listen.

[Just-garrosh]

cap at 80% mount speed

make a game fun and interesting

I would say that is counterintuitive.

[Ylinimi-dalaran]

Guess what, they do that every expansion. This one just took them a bit longer.

What mount abilities have been removed before?*

*the change of the Yak reforger to transmog was due to the removal of reforging

[Parabnormal-silvermoon (Parabnormal)]

Yea, I like that idea too.

[Aludren-stormrage]

It’s only counterintuitive when you don’t know why or how game design works and why, and how, people get fun and “meaning” from playing a game.
There’s no fun without real risk of failure, ie, Islands and warfronts are boring because you cannot lose. AV was fun because you could.
There’s no meaning without cost, ie, previous “carrot on a stick” example.

If the suits aren’t listening to the devs about this, they should all be fired.

[Aludren-stormrage]

boring. making all mounts the same is boring. no one enjoys 50% grey.

[Moused-cairne (Moused)]

How did this work back in vanilla days? There was only only a mount speed boost, “carrot on a stick,”

LOL I still have my carrot on the stick too…

[Friedbones-anvilmar (Friedbones)]

There is already a water walking potion in the game. What I was referring to is this: " * Inflatable Mount Shoes : Equip in your mount equipment slot to allow you to walk across water while mounted. Any damage will cancel the effect."

I checked the link someone provided just below my post and found this. But I still do not know which craft can make them. The article only refers as a reference to this: “These items will be made by professions (e.g. Dazed from Blacksmithing) and can be replaced at any time. However, the item is destroyed when replaced. [Judgehype](https ://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/article/rise-of-azshara-summit-on-a-joue-au-patch-8-2-chez-blizzard/) announced that Blizzard thinks the price should be 1,000 gold.”

So my question is still unanswered. I have an alchemist who can make the water walking potions but that is not the same thing as the inflatable mount shoes the article is referring to.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

inflatable mount shoes

Just going by the name i’m going to guess engineering.

[Jops-zuljin]

*the change of the Yak reforger to transmog was due to the removal of reforging

And not like it was named “The Reforger Expedition Yak” or something.

One could argue that replacing the deprecated vendor with a transmog vendor was actually a massive UPGRADE for the mount. Seemed like it was a much more popular mount after the change.

[anon38033770]

A small clarification to our plans with Mount Equipment–

Hitting level 100 on one character will unlock this system. Once unlocked, the system will be available to all characters, and the equipment pieces themselves will require level 20. If your goal is to have waterwalking while leveling, you can just enable the waterwalking Mount Equipment (there will be one available via Anglers reputation that will be bind-on-account), and it’ll work exactly as before, with the benefit of making all of that character’s mounts walk on water.

Complete and utter joke.
so they remove our WW, then sell it back to us. theft, plain and simple. I worked for something. They steal it and put it in a new package and sell it back to me. Disgusting. But hey…blizzard is what it is these days.

And those who have just started playing the game?
Now they cant have the strider at all while leveling thru MoP (have to be 100 to unlock) ?

and from what is being said the mount equipment is required PER character and may well easily cost 1000g PER character.
I have 50 some odd characters.
You jokers expect me to have what I EARNED STOLEN from me, then RESOLD to me…FIFTY TIMES ?

Youre out of your minds.
I’ll quit first.
oh wait…I already did over this kind of childish, controlling crap.

[Mysteren-staghelm (Mysteren)]

its all blizzards fault for how they designed the game to depend on water striders.its not a mount problem is a game design problem.

It’s neither.
It’s a time played metric problem.
They are making a zone with a lot of water. They don’t want us zipping across all that water with a strider.
They tried to get rid of the water walking ability outside of it’s original expansion because Legion was coming with a lot of water to cross.
That didn’t work so they are now using the mount equipment excuse to get rid of ww on the strider so it can be permanently gone when they get rid of the mount equipment.
Everything they are putting in the game since they changed to the time played metric is designed specifically, and for the sole purpose, of slowing down our ability to do things quickly so our time played metric will increase.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

A small clarification to our plans with Mount Equipment–

Hitting level 100 on one character will unlock this system. Once unlocked, the system will be available to all characters, and the equipment pieces themselves will require level 20. If your goal is to have waterwalking while leveling, you can just enable the waterwalking Mount Equipment (there will be one available via Anglers reputation that will be bind-on-account), and it’ll work exactly as before, with the benefit of making all of that character’s mounts walk on water.

Complete and utter joke.
so they remove our WW, then sell it back to us. theft, plain and simple. I worked for something. They steal it and put it in a new package and sell it back to me. Disgusting. But hey…blizzard is what it is these days.

And those who have just started playing the game?
Now they cant have the strider at all while leveling thru MoP (have to be 100 to unlock) ?

and from what is being said the mount equipment is required PER character and may well easily cost 1000g PER character.
I have 50 some odd characters.
You jokers expect me to have what I EARNED STOLEN from me, then RESOLD to me…FIFTY TIMES ?

Youre out of your minds.
I’ll quit first.
oh wait…I already did over this kind of childish, controlling crap.

guess the blues dont like facts in here.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

yeah…that should just about do it.
Whats fair is fair.

[Taienna-aerie-peak (Taienna)]

its all blizzards fault for how they designed the game to depend on water striders.its not a mount problem is a game design problem.

It’s neither.
It’s a time played metric problem.
They are making a zone with a lot of water. They don’t want us zipping across all that water with a strider.
They tried to get rid of the water walking ability outside of it’s original expansion because Legion was coming with a lot of water to cross.
That didn’t work so they are now using the mount equipment excuse to get rid of ww on the strider so it can be permanently gone when they get rid of the mount equipment.
Everything they are putting in the game since they changed to the time played metric is designed specifically, and for the sole purpose, of slowing down our ability to do things quickly so our time played metric will increase.

So they suck at making content and WE have to pay for THEIR incompetence by having OUR stuff that we worked for stolen from us.
Sounds like criminal charges in the real world.

[Thór-blackrock]

I have 50 some odd characters.

Yeah this is rough. This hurts the customers that have invested quite a lot the worst.

You’d think they were trying to sabotage their own game by purposefully driving people away.

[Warpstone-norgannon (Warpstone)]

They are making a zone with a lot of water

When i leveled all my characters through Cataclysm my main did the water world and all other 20 i leveled thru Cata i skipped the water world. I will Never ever do a water world more than once and only on my main. They are horrible i hate them so a new water would will make me play a lot less esp with out water walking.

[Tarc-fenris (Tarc)]

Thank you, I’m glad I’m not the only one expressing a bit of realism and sanity regarding this issue.