I have seen a mythic raider burst up to 8k dps. It surprised me, but it’s fine, tbh.
the parses simply prove that Holy Paladins can do 13k single target dps and no other healer is within 10k of that, and that is not supposed to be normal if you are balancing the game.
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You clearly don’t understand how logs work. We’re done here.
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no you didnt read what i typed. The damage is negligible, the shield is broken and i already mentioned that it should be nerfed.
Fixed it for ya.
It’s not negligible. A disc priest doing 1200 dps and providing PI for someone else is pretty big damage. You’ll notice that in the logs of HPals doing insane damage they’re also not really healing. That’s fine.
…for 40 seconds.
They amount to about 60% of a DPS thereafter.
I’ll spell this out simple for you as you can’t read a paragraph apparently. The paladin didn’t heal. He played with a dps legendary.
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Dang somebody cherry picked video and made a post about it.
Shocker, I’m shocked, this is my shocked face.
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No, the PI damage included would only net the disc enough damage to be equal to the other healers reaching 3kish over Lust, while Paladins do 13k. Why this isnt an issue to you, is odd.
I play a resto Shaman.
Hearing about Holy Paladin DPS, here’s my reaction:
-Do they beat resto shamans in terms of healing?
-no?
-Then I don’t care
I didn’t exactly roll a healer to top the DPS charts…
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I mean, as a Holy Paladin, I will gladly trade you my DPS for yours, in exchange for my best healing capabilities to not rely on me being within melee range DPSing. lol
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dont understand what you are saying. Paladins do compete with Resto shaman in healing when they want to.
What you’re missing is that if healers want to do DPS, one spec can do 10k more then the others, and why exactly?
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Yeah, legit. I played a Holy Paladin from 1-50, and it’s more like:
Oh great, I love having to constantly be moving and in melee range, while also having to do damage because all my major heals rely on a combo system instead of just healing!
When I did dungeons, I actually received the complaint “stop dpsing, heal more” as they didn’t understand that I needed to DPS in order to actually heal!
It’s no coincidence that then complaints come from people who only see a video or a parse, yet don’t even play the class so they really don’t understand all the associated setbacks!
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Holy Paladin doesn’t even compare to Resto Shaman’s healing output. They only compete in 5 mans really due to less targets to soak healing.
Even when Paladin had the most overpowered AoE heal during Cata ( Holy Radiance), they still couldn’t beat Resto Shaman’s AoE healing during raids.
I still see Resto Shaman beat Holy Paladin’s that take the Kyrian Glimmer build a purely healing choice.
If holy paladin didn’t do the dps, no one would even want them and they would been worse off than Mistweaver is currently.
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What you are missing is that healers don’t roll a healer because they are excited to do DPS!
I swear, you DPS players are so obsessed with DPS that you begin inspecting things like healer DPS and use that to determine the best healer! You don’t even realize, do you, how healing parses are borderline meaningless either, do you?
But I do have some good news for you:
Holy Paladins are being nerfed!
I don’t know what the guy is going on about, tbh. I do quite a bit of PVP in the 2100+ range, and I can’t 1v1 kill anyone of equal gear/skill in most cases (at least not quickly)–nor would I be playing my role correctly if I were trying to in 99.9999% of cases.
As far as raiding goes, healer DPS is more or less arbitrary–it’s a nice bonus I guess but I’ve never in 13 years of raiding heard anyone make mention that healers need to pick their DPS up. lol
And having done hundreds of higher keys during BFA (timed a bunch of 17’s-19’s), while the healer is expected to DPS, never once did the healer DPS being too good or too bad come into question. Half the time we were carrying an undergeared DPS anyway because his friend was an amazing tank.
So if OP is doing +25’s (which I’m going to doubt) then maybe the competition between DPS capabilities of healers might be of interest, but that’s a pretty niche category to be complaining about.
But yeah, I decided to main Holy Paladin this season because I liked the elite PVP set for plate looks, if it weren’t for that I would have been playing a Disc Priest. The DPS of the class was nothing I’ve ever thought about until I saw this thread, to be honest. lol
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Ok, so what that Holy does a ton of burst damage? Like we all get that MW, RDruid and HPriest need help, but even if you nerf HPal burst damage those specs are still bad.
An HPal deciding to sacrifice most of their healing to do damage is hardly an issue.
I can relate to that! The times I actually care about my DPS as a healer is when I see one has died or it’s low, then I feel I really need to concentrate on it to make up the lack of it!
Like, I recently did a normal CN clear and the final boss, they were having issues with phase 1 due to the DPS check, so they decided to kick some players who were below the tank.
Let me tell you, not once did they go “The issue is the healers aren’t doing enough DPS” LOL
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Awww look how mad you all are flagging this post to try and get it removed, so salty are the players who abuse a holy paladins DPS and want it to stay.