"Warts and all"

It most certainly is.

We wanted vanilla, warts and all.

It is weird how many ex #nochangers are now asking for changes to 1.12 though.

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We have been informed from the start. We are not getting vanilla. We are getting Classic.

Classic = vanilla + modern infrastructure - (warts and all minus Blizzard polish)

Literally none.

Anyone asking for changes is not and never was a “#nochanger.”

Cool. That doesn’t refute anything I said, though.

We want vanilla, warts and all.

I have “warts and all” but I’m still fun

I’ll agree with that, anyone asking for changes to 1.12 was never a #nochanger.

Good luck getting it. Especially when we know we never will.

After weeks of R&D, experimentation, and prototyping, we were confident we could deliver the classic WoW content and gameplay without sacrificing the literally millions of hours put in to back-end development over the past 13 years.

Blizzard polish (literally millions of hours) destroying warts.

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It also means they are leaving in some of the bugs… as Blizz said they would.

The phrase “warts and all” came out of the mouth of Ian himself in a developer QnA shortly after the announcement of classic. Since then, the community hasn’t let go of the phrase.

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Christ isn’t it too early for this? This is just troll bait, but At least Ristra broke there vow of Silence.

Let the generic Blood elf act like a generic blood elf,

Here’s a Classic Wart’s and all.

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From today’s Blizzard? Probably not.

Okay?

And we want that.

No company could, would, or should. As explained in the dev watercooler.

The industry is never going to roll back to that level of security, performance, and support.

Millions of hours of effort would be thrown away.

It’s an all or nothing deal.

And also fixing some bugs and modernizing things…

Oh, I just meant that they actually made changes to the game.

I don’t care how they authenticate logins and such.

Absolutely not. I want all of the bugs, too.

What part of #nochanges is unclear to you? “Warts and all.”

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Blizzard, not understanding what actually made vanilla great, is under the impression that most “warts” are bad things.

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I’d say that’s where the frustration comes from. Things like layering, bnet, loot sharing, etc are part of that modern infrastructure “all or nothing”

We can all see it as gameplay changes but as long as it’s on the Blizzard list for must have or they can’t secrure, maintain, and support. It’s infrastructure.

What now what part of you won’t be getting a #nochanges and a true warts and all experience do you not get?

Layering is something entirely new. They’re not just adapting vanilla to their modern infrastructure; they’re developing something entirely new that alters the gameplay rather dramatically.

Also, layering, and its predecessor sharding, are not infrastructure. The “cloud-based” server system is infrastructure. The ability for servers to share performance to prevent crashes when one server is overstressed is infrastructure.

What part of…

… do you not get?

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And you are getting some of the warts. just not all of them.

That people think classic will be the same as vanilla is their first mistake.

Okay? Is there a point in declaring that in response to a desire for something different?

“We want” does not mean “we think it will be.”