Stopped reading right here because you are already wrong.
Every single person in my guild and on my friends list is people that played TBC/WotLK 10-15 years ago and are hyped to see the glory days return. In fact, I have not met a single person playing Classic that is younger than 25’ish and isn’t either a college student, working full time, or raising a family.
What is your point?
There is no benefit to not having LFD except consuming unnecessary amounts of time. If you dont want toxic players and want to filter or whatever then don’t use it.
Thanks DadKappa.
Keeping server communities intact is more important than giving you easy access to jump and out of groups and live in a world of anonymity. Go play retail if you want dungeon finder.
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Your server community will not unravel because RDF exists. You can have your filter buddies and not use RDF. Not having RDF screws casual players that relied on it to do dungeons when it existed in the game before.
No one stops you from filtering. Filter all you want just don’t screw others.
And if there are so many of you that don’t want RDF you guys can all still hang out together in your community. RDF doesn’t stop you from doing that.
Also you’re very lucky you have the time to sit around filtering. I just want to play the game and run a dungeon quickly maybe 3-4 times a week.
This is exactly what killed server community originally and it is likely why they aren’t making the same mistake.
“We’ve heard from our Classic community that the importance of social bonds is a big part of what makes Classic their game of choice, and we agree.”
-Blizzard April 19, 2022 with the announcement of no dungeon finder in WotLK
The message is pretty clear. Communities and social bonds are more important than dungeon finder.
Disagree? Lucky for you there is a world of anonymity waiting for you just a few simple clicks away called World of Warcraft retail.
I would love to play retail if it was exactly as wotlk was before. I just had an idea. Maybe we can make servers connected with RDF and then other servers without it. Maybe this could make both parties happy.
Don’t like dungeon finder? There’s eternal Classic for you just a few simple clicks away. But dungeon finder was in Wrath and should be in Wrath Classic.
OP, Blizz should probably make a note of that since most players will be expecting it. But of course they won’t. Players will buy their boost, hit the ‘raid or die’ boost-riddled, gdkp-riddled toxic mess that’s created by a lack of dungeon finder…and quit. And Blizz doesn’t care. You’ve already bought your boost and a sub for a while, and Classic has been turned into nothing but a very short-term money making scheme.
So your plan is to further fragment servers that are already fragmented by population, faction population, time-zone, and server type?
Do I really have to explain to you why this is a very very bad idea?
Blizzard disagrees with this message.
^^^ Blizzard making note of it.
" * No Dungeon Finder – Players rediscovering Wrath of the Lich King Classic won’t find the Looking for Dungeon feature originally added in Patch 3.3.5. We’ve heard from our Classic community that the importance of social bonds is a big part of what makes Classic their game of choice, and we agree."
It’s good they made note of it. More than I expected. The part about hearing from the Classic community is complete nonsense though. TBCC has no community. Dungeon runs are boosting and gatekeeping.
Well look. It can be a survival of the fittest to really see who is the majority and the minority. This is a polarizing issue that would be deserving of a resolution such as this. Not including RDF screws people from playing the way they want and also (according to the orc) people cannot filter bad players.
I think this could be a real solution. Thanks for the inspiration.
This couldn’t be further from the truth. I have been a GM and Raid Leader since 2008 and can tell you with absolute certainty that any intelligent person creating a group is easily able to tell the difference between a good player and a bad player, even more so with tools currently available such as Warcraftlogs.
No one cares. The majority =/= right. Do we really have to go through every example in history where the majority has been wrong before? I don’t have the time for that. I’m not being compensated for that.
Again, so what? Not having free unlimited gold screws me from playing the way I want to play. Oh well, it’s not my game and I can only play around the boundaries that Blizzard sets, and they’ve set them and guess what, those boundaries include NO LFD.
Sorry. I should have said without RDF people cannot filter bad players. I really don’t agree with this statement anyways because RDF would not effect your ability to filter people anyways; you are more than able to continue making the groups you want and filtering people along the way even if RDF was in the game. Editing my comment to say also instead of vice versa.
Are you actually saying you are incapable of filtering out bad/toxic players and need RDF to do it for you?
Can you do anything for yourself?
Also - RDF does nothing to filter out bad/toxic players. If someone leaves they might get hit with deserter and have to wait to queue, but aside from that it does nothing.
No I didn’t say that. I was saying that you said you can’t filter bad players if RDF exists. I don’t filter people. I think it’s very toxic to do that. I’m just saying we should have two sets of servers; some with and some without RDF. You can do all the filtering you want and I can play casually as I did before.
So it’s toxic to not want to invite people to my group who are miserable to play with?
LMFAO.
That is all I have to say about that. You are hilarious.
So guilds are toxic huh?
You should probably just stop typing. You are digging a hole and just making yourself look more and more like a joke with every post.
It is toxic to say RDF shouldn’t exist and then exclude people who aren’t as good as you thereby disallowing them to do dungeons. You can still filter and let all the bad people use RDF. I think I’m getting to the core of the issue here though; you feel self righteous by filtering people and RDF takes away the power you get from excluding others. It is very toxic and quite sad actually. You also stated you are a GM which means you dedicate massive amounts of time to the game. Stop cheating people from playing the game they want because you want to feel a sense of power over others. Split the servers up into RDF and no RDF and you can have your sad little throne.
RDF was in wotlk before; it needs to be in the game again
And yes in wotlk I was in a guild where it became divided between good and bad people. The bad people never got to play. Guilds can be terribly toxic and it starts with people like you.
Oh so now guilds are the problem because they want to be successful.
