WARMODE : What is it good for?

[Daltón-frostmourne]

@Aédan-kiljaeden

You haven’t turned it on. You don’t know that you don’t like it. You’re hypothesizing problems from no experience. WM has problems, but you don’t know any of them.

Ive also never been stabbed in the neck with a spoon, but I know I dont like it.

[Windizu-proudmoore]

War Mode’s ability to let people opt into WPvP regardless of their server is a straight upgrade from the old system, it lets people choose how they want to play without having to be locked to a server they may or may not want to be on for various reasons.

Only 2 things I would change are remove the innate bonus’ and add in War Mode exclusive objectives to all zones, to encourage PvP. Stuff that provides bonus’ to your faction in that zone, a possible example could be the town of Brennedam in Stormsong. At 120 it becomes a objective to capture, and the faction holding it gets PvP bonus’ in the region, like damage proc’s or defensive buffs, maybe even enabling a extra Flight Master for that faction. Heck even let people earn Honor and Conquest in WM, further incentivizing PvP.

War Mode should be for those who choose to engage in WPvP to shank the opposite faction, not because it makes the PvE more rewarding.

[Aédan-kiljaeden]

That comparison is utterly ridiculous and you know it. You claim to love world pvp, but you have never experienced world pvp under this system. So you know nothing about it or if you’d enjoy it. There’s no one out there in love with throat stabbing insisting it would suck if he used a spoon.

[Xamantul-ragnaros]

Nah I like warmode because you can play at peace without paying a transfer to a pve realm.

[Elorinorin-argent-dawn]

@Daltón-frostmourne

But to me, warmode does not work. Ive always rolled on PvP realms, but Ive never turned on warmode. It just doesnt seam right to be able to opt in and out at your will, you turn it on when your side is winning, then flick it off when losing.

This isn’t at all how it works, nor is there a “winning or losing” for warmode.

Since you only ever played on PVP realms, you should be able to understand. In a PVP realm you’re flagged for PVP combat while you’re out doing your quests or farming or whatever. There is nothing to win or lose, you’re just out in whatever zone you’re in doing whatever it is you’re doing.

with Warmode enabled, you’re flagged for PVP combat while you’re out doing your quests or farming or whatever. There is nothing to win or lose, you’re just out in whatever zone you’re in doing whatever it is you’re doing.

You can only enable Warmode in Orgrimmar. So it is majorly inconvenient for you to try to enable warmode for yourself and then go join in with a bunch of world PVP without it already being over by the time you get there.

Conversely, you can only disable warmode in a safe zone. You can’t be out doing your thing and notice there’s a pile of the opposite faction and disable warmode. You have to leave what you’re doing and go find a rested area to disable it.

The biggest change this did was make it so you can’t invite people into your pvp realm and auto flag them.

[Xavier-feathermoon]

To level your horde characters.

[Antipattern-area-52]

PVP servers will always be PVP
PVE servers have opt in PVP.
War mode must be removed, especially in PVP servers.
That is all.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

Just turn on WM and never turn it off.

Boom, just like a pvp server.

[Baelharth-azralon (Baelharth)]

@Windizu-proudmoore

Only 2 things I would change are remove the innate bonus’

So we can live in the beautiful world of horde players whom massively outnumber alliance? No thanks.

@Windizu-proudmoore

Stuff that provides bonus’ to your faction in that zone

rolf like silithus and plaguelands tower? nobody cares about that nor some 5% buff unless they gonna get it while raiding.

[Baelharth-azralon (Baelharth)]

@Daltón-frostmourne

Remove warmode, go back to PvP/PvE realms. Surely they can work out sharding and xrealm stuff to only work between PvP and PvE realms.

Being stuck in an 95% horde pvp realm wasn’t fun at all most of the time it was 20vs1

@Daltón-frostmourne

What does it actually do? Gives you a levelling boost. Beyond that not really sure.

It is really helping the AP grind, bonus gear and conq points to cap. And it evne improves your leveling. It is rpetty good actually.

@Daltón-frostmourne

Just remove world PvP all together. Not really an option in my opinion.

The fact it isn’t even an option quite makes your point null.

@Daltón-frostmourne

Remove PvE realms altogether, and go with the 3 zones. Green(friendly no pvp/Orange you are in PvP but only for players within say 10 levels of you?/Red you are in pvp regardless. Green will be your starting zones and maybe first levelling area. Orange will be all the Neutral zones, could maybe have these swap around from xpac to xpac?. Red is the opposite factions starting zones, where if you go there you are in pvp regardless of levels ect.

All servers are normal servers now. Also, pointless.

@Daltón-frostmourne

TLDR: Warmode bad. Need better ideas.

Warmode is a far better idea than anything you suggested.

Their only error was giving a small boost for both factions when we clearly have a massive faction imbalance, which they can solve using more things than bonuses althoug those do help you keep your ally main.

[Spinster-farstriders (Spinster)]

@Rastlin-eldrethalas

Warmode is friends only to the undertaker!!!

Huh! Good god, ya’all

[Ollpheist-hydraxis (Ollpheist)]

@Daltón-frostmourne

It just doesnt seam right to be able to opt in and out at your will, you turn it on when your side is winning, then flick it off when losing.

So you’re looking for unwilling victims, then. Seems about right for these threads.

[Kurddran-stormrage]

say it again…!

[Pumkinspiced-stormreaver]

I like warmode. It also brought everyone to the same servers. We all play either normal or RP.

[Eternosus-galakrond (Eternosus)]

@Daltón-frostmourne

Ive also never been stabbed in the neck with a spoon, but I know I dont like it.

I can respect that.

I’m just having trouble understanding why, given that you want wPvP, warmode off would be preferable to warmode on. I’m fuzzy about the sort of experience you want vs the experience you are excpeting to encounter if you toggle it on.

[Daltón-frostmourne]

@Ollpheist-hydraxis

@Daltón-frostmourne

It just doesnt seam right to be able to opt in and out at your will, you turn it on when your side is winning, then flick it off when losing.

So you’re looking for unwilling victims, then. Seems about right for these threads.

Unwilling victims on a PvP realm?

[Nippyss-barthilas (Nippyss)]

Never should have had a reward for pve in there ever

Let me tell you what went wrong

Horde start bashing allies on, allies claim they’re getting smashed then the rest of the peaceful part of the horde works out they can just roam uncontested in war mode and end up helping with group kills then allies all leave and require a huge WM bonus

Now it’s just you get dropped into a shard with hardly any other faction or you get dropped in a shard with a 40 man raid group of the other faction

[Caïn-bladefist]

I like my pvp talents tyvm

[Valiane-stormrage]

It was a slight of hand to eliminate PVP servers.

[Tatertot-darkspear (Tatertot)]