I don’t think pointing out the faction war in WoW boils down to a lot of cartoonish villains has a lot of bearing on one’s thoughts on real world history.
their definition, like so many wow players, is a horrible hamfisted faction conflict that can never have a satisfactory conclusion. another boring stalemate and one side going “ill get you next time, Gadget, next time” as Team Rocket blasts off again.
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I just told you they were the proto drakes that defected from the aspects alongside the incarnates and went to war with the aspects 20000 years ago
Their entire history is being the original proto drakes that rejected the titans gift their homeland was the same as the original dragons.
Have you been listening to anything im saying its like talking to a brick wall ffs.
Why do you care so much about the games lore if you clearly know nothing about it.
Not before they learn how to write one better, please.
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Who is this person?
There are all of these random people who just show up out of nowhere with a gaggle of minions and like… what? From where?
Meanwhile you look back at something like the Shadow Council and you have this whole history of the clans practicing Shamanism, Gul’dan striking out on his own, coming back, introducing the Shadowmoon to Warlock magic, rising up through the clan. None of that exists in DF. They just show up out of nowhere because the expansion needs fodder.
I would obviously prefer this.
However
If blizzard is too dumb or lazy to do that then…
I don’t see what’s wrong with both factions being this instead.
I think they are implying that what you are calling cartoonish villainy is very similar to real world history. A sentiment I am ambivalent towards.
We need to spam them on twitter demanding this.
As I already told you, making that lore on the spot for the expac is no good. Development is important.
This is why the burning of Teldrassil was so amazing. Finally some results! Greatest moment in wow history.
The burning itself was fine. The reason it happened was stupid, and for some reason Blizzard doesn’t get how that matters.
did it accomplish anything? no. it accomplished nothing, because teldrassil still exists. its still a stalemate, status quo survives.
you burned a tree down, and angered a bunch of hippy elves, congrats, you are still a glorified gardener.
Fine, but let’s not pretend that we are friends in the meantime. Don’t pretend the reasons we have to kill each other have just gone away. Literally nothing has gotten resolved.
Your comparing random dungeon bosses to raid bosses no duh there isnt much lore behind dungeon bosses there rarely is.
That’s where the Bad Writing begins.
I dont know what you expect wow basically ended at legion now there isnt much old lore left to draw from thats just nature of the game being 2 decades old.
Also i wasnt even talking to you.
If it’s so bad, how would you “solve” Warsong Gulch? How do you meet the needs of both factions?
Blizzard is decent at starting a conflict, they seem to think that they need to end them for some reason. Conflict breeds more conflict; Blizzard just needs to ride the wave and make bank.
Yeah now, not at the time though.
It’s not just dungeon bosses vs raid bosses. It’s the entire faction having no established history vs a different faction having a different, rooted history.
The Legion works because we know about the Legion - their scale and scope, their history, their capabilities. The Primalists are as strong or as weak as they need to be to create tension but still get beat up by murder hobos, its just bad writing.
To be honest I’m kind of bored of explaining this to you. You aren’t actually contributing anything by refusing to accept that the Primalists are bad, so I’m probably just going to mute you.
You think there are good reasons to kill each other? People have been killing other people all over the world since the dawn of time for any (or no) reason. That’s real life.
Then I’d refer back to my earlier comment: I’d rather have something bad and new than a third bad retelling of a story that wasn’t good the first time around.
It’s not an interesting story when it’s only 2 sides taking turns being cartoonishly evil.
I’m not gonna pretend to be an expert but I know enough about WW1 to know that it absolutely isn’t.
Also the world wars have plenty of interesting stories to read about, but I feel it’s worth noting that just because something happened in real life that doesn’t automatically make it an interesting story for a video game.
This is a game, last I checked.
There’s War. If you’re asking for Faction Wars? Doesn’t really matter, most PvP mmo dies. Warhammer Return of Reckoning is good for it tho!