I mean there’s that one guy who really wants to play his human DK on Horde to afk in Undercity who has had some… opinions.
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People seem to forget the real reason why she is an undead now. She tried to reunite the death of lordareon with their living family and got killed for it. So im sorry but all the forsaken who loved the menethil will follow her either way cause they didnt liked Sylvanas
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This. Also the claims about Calia being Alliance are laughable.
Let’s put it this way: if some Orc showed up in Stormwind, said “Zug Zug” and proceeded to rebuild Theramore, I’d say make the dude High King of the Alliance.
He’d have effectively done more for the Alliance than any Alliance leader ever has.
And that’s why we shouldn’t have another faction war moving forward.
On paper? Sounds amazing and fun.
In practice? You’re going to make one side or the other angry.
Even if you do push the matter, it can’t just end with one side winning then leaving the losing side to their own devices. Anything short of total destruction of the losing side just doesn’t make sense. You don’t leave an enemy able to come back to fight you again. You destroy them completely.
Logistically, the Alliance would have been more than justified to destroy the Horde at several points, but what happens if Blizzard actually goes that route? They can’t just tell 75% of their players “Sorry guys! You’ll have to switch to Alliance since you’re all dead!”
Also, for what it’s worth, the Alliance did canonically win both battles depicted within the BfA Warfronts. That in itself made Horde players upset.
Also, from a storytelling standpoint, it never makes any damn sense. The moment one side or the other gets a bug up their rear end about something, all common sense and reasoning goes out the window.
What’s that? The Lich King is looking to kill us all and raise us as his undead slaves? All life on Azeroth might be wiped out by either the Burning Legion or an Old God?
No problem! We’ll deal with that existential crisis AFTER we’ve spent several months killing each other and weakening our armies over petty squabbles!
(And yes, I know the Burning of Teldrassil and the events of the Fourth War are anything buy petty, it’s all the other far more minor BS I’m referring to such as territorial disputes, and instantly assuming the worst about the other side when something goes wrong such as at the Wrathgate or Broken Shore)
Each time the faction war starts up again, it gets more and more convoluted. Let the idea stay in the past.
Hey I wouldn’t care either, if Blizzard would just stop pushing Alliance-centric stories on us all the time.
If I NEVER saw an Alliance player or NPC ever again in WoW, the game would instantly get way better.
Unfortunately, in their cost-cutting efforts, Blizzard just creates a “one-size-fits-all” story centered around the Alliance characters, then shoves it on the rest of us.
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Still her pile of ashes to rule as she deems fit. Not our fault your last “leader” decided to play you all like puppets and blight nuke your own home/city. In fact, as memory serves, we didn’t use our spaceship to just turn the city into a crater or napalm the city with all the innocent and defenseless people.
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Actually if you ever made one you’d know they are only dead Human of lordareon who died during the plague caused by Arthas The only exception are Sylvanas and her dark ranger
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I’d wager by now, it’s fine for Lordaeron to be the Forsaken kingdom.
But having Gilneas be a home for the Gilneans again and likely enjoying the juxtaposition of housing the Night Elves would be decent closure.
And Calia on the council rather than unilateral authority is the way of things for the myriad Forsaken beliefs.
Stormwind Imperialism at its finest.
Blizzard for the last 8 years.
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We’ve literally known this since BFA - the “surprise” was that some wish to return.
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I don’t know about Night Elves setting up shop in Gilneas.
At least not since Tyrande got her special Kinder Surprise crammed full o’ Night Elf souls courtesy of the Winter Queen.
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The first pet I ever bought in WoW was from Jeremiah back in 2005 
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I assumed it was an oversight in BFA… someone at Blizzard not understanding the lore (shocker) and just assuming Sylvanas was controlling them. To my knowledge, this is the first confirmation where they say it in game: “No, they have free will… and some of them actually decided they’d join the people who murdered them in an unprovoked war while genociding the rest of their race rather than return to the Alliance.”
I guess they just really wanted Cutting Edge.
I’m so glad he survived 
I mean you act like you can just ignore monarchy and the logical effects it has.
Like do you really think a citizen has any chance to actually take the throne of SW and declare themselves/their family as the new rulers?
From the Forsaken side, they lost their ruling family and got handed a genocidal maniac who never really had their interests to heart. She used their own newfound hatred and darkness as tools to serve at her leisure and sent them on a path of literal global annihilation and she literally ups and abandons them at the drop of a hat (well the tearing of a helm) after, of course, jabbing that knife deep in their back letting them know they were pawns all along.
They were already abandoned/forsaken by their societal deity…became the “living” embodiment of the very thing it hates and seeks to destroy. They were forsaken by their prince who killed their king (though VERY much arguable he wasn’t himself anymore when that happened and much of that would have been made common knowledge over the many years since), and now they are left leaderless, yet again.
Enter Calia who by the same laws of the land, has the claim and more actually has a heart to serve as a duty and service to her people and not just some ego-feeding thing and while she may not have turned undead by the same plague, she still suffered the same fate of dying and being resurrected against her will and made into an undead…a fate they share, like it or not.
I guess Garrosh and Sylvanas being major villains for a time weren’t a thing, nor was the huge focus on Syl in Shadowlands (for better or worse, but that’s a different debate)
And as I know someone will eventually counter with “BUT ANDUIN!” I’ll challenge you with this:
Go ahead and put Thrall in his place. You know what the response would be?
“WTF BLIZ!? You made another Horde character the bad guy again!”
Bottom line: While he wasn’t technically a villain, the fact is Anduin WAS an enemy in Shadowlands for a time. Horde players will complain that the story was Alliance focused as a result, yet if we did it to one of our leaders, half of you would lose your damn minds about it.
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I don’t subscribe to WoW to be a heel.
Maybe you’re into that kind of thing, though.
No, there was a Calia quest in the last patch of BFA where we see Lilian come to Calia and she says the Night Elves don’t believe the Alliance will forgive them, so they need to find a new home in the Horde, and Lilian believes Calia can help them.
Yeah, I am happy you ain’t writing that fanfic my man, I would hate to be a servant of the human overlords like every alliance race except the night elves.