08/17/2018 02:21 PMPosted by EeveeSeemed like a worthy time to bump this. Welcome to all the new people excited for Vulpera and also all the people who are opposed to them!
Have you reserved your vulpera names yet?
08/17/2018 02:55 PMPosted by Chronormi08/17/2018 02:21 PMPosted by EeveeSeemed like a worthy time to bump this. Welcome to all the new people excited for Vulpera and also all the people who are opposed to them!
Have you reserved your vulpera names yet?
Would you change Eevee into a Vulpera or stay a Panda?
Also for me pandaren are the closest race available to Vulpera right now. We're big and chubby which I love but I also want the cute foxes. We have worgen (which are ugly) and we have tauren but it's not the same.
08/17/2018 03:59 AMPosted by Flabb08/16/2018 12:23 PMPosted by OppaisanI'm still wanting to play as a freaking murloc, going on 14 years now. Nobody has ever heard of this stupid fox race, but we've seen the awesomeness of murlocs for over a decade.
I want to be able to turn on murloc language in chat when I talk!
I agree on the Murloc. Ogreâs too
08/17/2018 06:02 AMPosted by Idun08/14/2018 11:14 AMPosted by FizsalieI demand my vulpera with llama mount now,
Please tell me there's a reference to the Monty Python sketch about llamas. Please.
08/17/2018 11:11 PMPosted by Juggalohttps://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20767657782?page=8#post-154 just a reminder they need to die
The fact you went to all that trouble to make a thread like that and post it here shows how desperate you are for attention.08/17/2018 11:11 PMPosted by Juggalohttps://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20767657782?page=8#post-154 just a reminder they need to die
08/17/2018 11:16 PMPosted by HylianlichThe fact you went to all that trouble to make a thread like that and post it here shows how desperate you are for attention.08/17/2018 11:11 PMPosted by Juggalohttps://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20767657782?page=8#post-154 just a reminder they need to die
All I wanna know is when are we gonna get a bard class? I'm all about that.04/30/2018 08:40 AMPosted by EeveeWelcome to the Unofficial Vulpera Discussion Megathread.
The purpose of this thread is collect all discussion about Vulpera in one place and stop me from posting a separate dicussion thread every other day. All opinions are welcome, but please keep discussion civil.
What is a Vulpera?
Vulpera are a new desert fox-like race revealed at Blizzcon. They're native to Zandalar, living in a desert wasteland known as Volâdun. For years, the Zandalari have been sending their criminals to these wastes, to perish in the heat; Volâdun is seen by the Zandalari as being too harsh for even them to survive in. The Vulpera, while thriving in this envoirnment, however, are not without their own troubles. The Sethârak have long enslaved the Vulpera, selling them as servants and slaves, as well as âfarmingâ them for food and furs. Living in such an environment they are likely scrappy, mischievous, scavengers. Stealing food and valuables from their masters to aid their families. They also likely have ties to tribalism and shamanism.
Screenshot of Male:
https://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2018/march/VulperaMaleSkinColor0.jpg
Screenshot of Female:
http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/712706.jpg
Male Dressing Room:
http://bfa.wowhead.com/dressing-room#RE0z0zJ8z9MM9MMR0z9M87T
Female Dressing Room:
http://bfa.wowhead.com/dressing-room#REzz0zJ8z9Mk9Mmr0m9M87ouoS87u
Typical Vulpera NPC:
http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=134148/maaz#modelviewer:10+0
Will they be Playable?
The short answer is Probably. However, there has been no official confirmation or denial on whether or not they will eventually become playable, and without said confirmation anything is technically possible. There has been one comment neither confirming or denying by a blizzard employee that is worth posting in its entirety here:02/06/2018 05:08 PMPosted by OrnyxAs we mentioned when race information for Lightforged Draenei and Void Elves was datamined during development of Patch 7.3, weâve found that setting up certain races as though they were player characters can be highly advantageous for NPC customization in story content. While those races did become Allied Races later, we still intend to use this approach for non-playable races.
Please donât take a race being datamined in this way as an indication that it will become playable in the future! :)
"Don't get ahead of yourselves"
Why are they assumed to be playable without confirmation?
This largely comes down to the sheer amount of resources that have been put into the Vulpera models. The vulpera models are either being built to become PCs, or they represent the most effort ever put into an NPC race by a significant margin. A list of their features not common to NPCs follows:
- Vulpera have both a male and female model
- Vulpera have an expansive list of customization options that dwarfs any NPC and even many PC races
- Vulpera faces are rigged with the most modern facial animation technology blizzard has, including animated eyes, and articulated lips and jaws.
- While both vulpera models are built on a male goblin skeleton, the skeleton has been heavily modified. It now includes an animated tail and digitigrade legs.
- Vulpera models are drastically different from their goblin donor, including a massive polygon increase. https://imgur.com/1zJbgby
- Vulpera are built to wear player armor. While not a feature exclusive to player races, it is very rare. In addition, while most headware does not work in the current beta, their unique legs have had all boots programmed to fit properly.
- Vulpera have a number of animations that would have no use on an NPC, including but not limited to /train and swimming backwards. While it would make sense for them to have defaults for these animations inherited from the male goblin, these animations have had face and tail animations added that would have required extra work that would have never been seen on an NPC
What Faction would Vulpera join?
Short Answer: Horde.
- Vulpera become friendly with the horde in Vol'dun, with many positive interactions.
- Being freed slaves and outcasts fit the narrative on which the Horde was Founded. The Island of Misfit Toys. Looking at the outfits, they look more befitting of the horde, with the troll-like shamanism charms.
- Gameplay wise, it would bring something new and also familiar to the Horde. New due to a small, cute race, but familiar because its going back to the beast races. While they arenât hulking and monstrous, it doesnât make them any less of a beast.
- Story wise, it makes more sense. They are enslaved by (a branch of) the Sethrak and the Horde helps to free them.
- Datamining has also turned up many flags usually reserved for marking horde characters.
What about Neutrality?
Very unlikely! The theme of the expansion is all about the Horde and Alliance conflict! There is no room for neutrality. Previously neutral factions are now joining their new families in the Horde/Alliance and becoming playable. Realistically, in times of war, third parties have not done well in history. In wars, the power house sides oft have a âyou are either with me or against me mentalityâ
Supposedly, Blizzard has stated they didnât like how the Pandaren really came out, and Iâll admit to being annoyed when I am unable to tell if that Panda in the field is a friend or a foe. âSharedâ races (Void elf, Nightborne) tend to have significant difference from their counterparts in skin, hair options, and other customization options, I see no reason why Blizzard wouldnât continue with this trend, given the outcry for High Elves opposed to Void Elves.
The Vulpera, however, are very close regionally, the culture and appearance wouldnât change all too much.
When will they be Playable?
The best guess is 8.2.
Blizzard has stated the only launch races will be Maghar and Dark Iron Dwarves, with Zandalari and Kul'tirans to come later (Perhaps 8.1) and the lack of official confirmation of Vulpera (and no candidate stepping up as the alliance counterpart yet) would indicate they are coming even later than that. This puts the timetable sometime around 8.2, though it could be sooner or later (or technically not at all.) Keep your fingers crossed for Blizzcon announcements.
I don't want vulpera to be playable
Many people are not as enthused about Vulpera as we are, and we respect their opinions (most of them anyway) but here are some common concerns and the usual response made to those concerns.
"I don't want Vulpera when the work could go into X"
Rebuttal: While X may or may not be a very popular potential feature, this argument is moot. The work on the vulpera models is nearly finished, and the time is already spent.
"Vulpera are too cute to be in a game as serious as WoW"
Rebuttal: WoW has always been a game that balances serious storytelling with lighthearted humour. You need only look at the number of quests to sort through poop to see WoW is not always taking itself terribly seriously. BFA is looking to be a very serious story, to maintain the balance that is WoW, things like the Vulpera are needed to ease up the tension.
"Ew Furries"
Vulpera appeal to more than just furries
You need not find your character sexually appealing to like it (ask a Forsaken)
Furries don't hurt anybody
The people you're afraid of are already playing the game as Tauren, Worgen, Pandaren, Draenei and Druids and are way too focused on getting gear with better numbers to hump your leg
This thread will be updated with any major news regarding Vulpera, however you are welcome to join the discord server at http://discord.gg/VWtmNME to stay privy to all the latest information
Credit goes to the Vulpera Hype Caravan for much of the work in this thread.
Breaking News Section!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6w6-0QCG10
Vulpera now have theme music!
08/17/2018 11:20 PMPosted by Eevee08/17/2018 11:16 PMPosted by Hylianlich... The fact you went to all that trouble to make a thread like that and post it here shows how desperate you are for attention.
He's probably not doing his ogre cause any favours by associating it with his Vulpera insults. Which is a shame because there are a few people who actually want ogres and he's not helping them
All I wanna know is when are we gonna get a bard class? I'm all about that.04/30/2018 08:40 AMPosted by EeveeWelcome to the Unofficial Vulpera Discussion Megathread.
The purpose of this thread is collect all discussion about Vulpera in one place and stop me from posting a separate dicussion thread every other day. All opinions are welcome, but please keep discussion civil.
What is a Vulpera?
Vulpera are a new desert fox-like race revealed at Blizzcon. They're native to Zandalar, living in a desert wasteland known as Volâdun. For years, the Zandalari have been sending their criminals to these wastes, to perish in the heat; Volâdun is seen by the Zandalari as being too harsh for even them to survive in. The Vulpera, while thriving in this envoirnment, however, are not without their own troubles. The Sethârak have long enslaved the Vulpera, selling them as servants and slaves, as well as âfarmingâ them for food and furs. Living in such an environment they are likely scrappy, mischievous, scavengers. Stealing food and valuables from their masters to aid their families. They also likely have ties to tribalism and shamanism.
Screenshot of Male:
https://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2018/march/VulperaMaleSkinColor0.jpg
Screenshot of Female:
http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/712706.jpg
Male Dressing Room:
http://bfa.wowhead.com/dressing-room#RE0z0zJ8z9MM9MMR0z9M87T
Female Dressing Room:
http://bfa.wowhead.com/dressing-room#REzz0zJ8z9Mk9Mmr0m9M87ouoS87u
Typical Vulpera NPC:
http://bfa.wowhead.com/npc=134148/maaz#modelviewer:10+0
Will they be Playable?
The short answer is Probably. However, there has been no official confirmation or denial on whether or not they will eventually become playable, and without said confirmation anything is technically possible. There has been one comment neither confirming or denying by a blizzard employee that is worth posting in its entirety here:02/06/2018 05:08 PMPosted by OrnyxAs we mentioned when race information for Lightforged Draenei and Void Elves was datamined during development of Patch 7.3, weâve found that setting up certain races as though they were player characters can be highly advantageous for NPC customization in story content. While those races did become Allied Races later, we still intend to use this approach for non-playable races.
Please donât take a race being datamined in this way as an indication that it will become playable in the future! :)
"Don't get ahead of yourselves"
Why are they assumed to be playable without confirmation?
This largely comes down to the sheer amount of resources that have been put into the Vulpera models. The vulpera models are either being built to become PCs, or they represent the most effort ever put into an NPC race by a significant margin. A list of their features not common to NPCs follows:
- Vulpera have both a male and female model
- Vulpera have an expansive list of customization options that dwarfs any NPC and even many PC races
- Vulpera faces are rigged with the most modern facial animation technology blizzard has, including animated eyes, and articulated lips and jaws.
- While both vulpera models are built on a male goblin skeleton, the skeleton has been heavily modified. It now includes an animated tail and digitigrade legs.
- Vulpera models are drastically different from their goblin donor, including a massive polygon increase. https://imgur.com/1zJbgby
- Vulpera are built to wear player armor. While not a feature exclusive to player races, it is very rare. In addition, while most headware does not work in the current beta, their unique legs have had all boots programmed to fit properly.
- Vulpera have a number of animations that would have no use on an NPC, including but not limited to /train and swimming backwards. While it would make sense for them to have defaults for these animations inherited from the male goblin, these animations have had face and tail animations added that would have required extra work that would have never been seen on an NPC
What Faction would Vulpera join?
Short Answer: Horde.
- Vulpera become friendly with the horde in Vol'dun, with many positive interactions.
- Being freed slaves and outcasts fit the narrative on which the Horde was Founded. The Island of Misfit Toys. Looking at the outfits, they look more befitting of the horde, with the troll-like shamanism charms.
- Gameplay wise, it would bring something new and also familiar to the Horde. New due to a small, cute race, but familiar because its going back to the beast races. While they arenât hulking and monstrous, it doesnât make them any less of a beast.
- Story wise, it makes more sense. They are enslaved by (a branch of) the Sethrak and the Horde helps to free them.
- Datamining has also turned up many flags usually reserved for marking horde characters.
What about Neutrality?
Very unlikely! The theme of the expansion is all about the Horde and Alliance conflict! There is no room for neutrality. Previously neutral factions are now joining their new families in the Horde/Alliance and becoming playable. Realistically, in times of war, third parties have not done well in history. In wars, the power house sides oft have a âyou are either with me or against me mentalityâ
Supposedly, Blizzard has stated they didnât like how the Pandaren really came out, and Iâll admit to being annoyed when I am unable to tell if that Panda in the field is a friend or a foe. âSharedâ races (Void elf, Nightborne) tend to have significant difference from their counterparts in skin, hair options, and other customization options, I see no reason why Blizzard wouldnât continue with this trend, given the outcry for High Elves opposed to Void Elves.
The Vulpera, however, are very close regionally, the culture and appearance wouldnât change all too much.
When will they be Playable?
The best guess is 8.2.
Blizzard has stated the only launch races will be Maghar and Dark Iron Dwarves, with Zandalari and Kul'tirans to come later (Perhaps 8.1) and the lack of official confirmation of Vulpera (and no candidate stepping up as the alliance counterpart yet) would indicate they are coming even later than that. This puts the timetable sometime around 8.2, though it could be sooner or later (or technically not at all.) Keep your fingers crossed for Blizzcon announcements.
I don't want vulpera to be playable
Many people are not as enthused about Vulpera as we are, and we respect their opinions (most of them anyway) but here are some common concerns and the usual response made to those concerns.
"I don't want Vulpera when the work could go into X"
Rebuttal: While X may or may not be a very popular potential feature, this argument is moot. The work on the vulpera models is nearly finished, and the time is already spent.
"Vulpera are too cute to be in a game as serious as WoW"
Rebuttal: WoW has always been a game that balances serious storytelling with lighthearted humour. You need only look at the number of quests to sort through poop to see WoW is not always taking itself terribly seriously. BFA is looking to be a very serious story, to maintain the balance that is WoW, things like the Vulpera are needed to ease up the tension.
"Ew Furries"
Vulpera appeal to more than just furries
You need not find your character sexually appealing to like it (ask a Forsaken)
Furries don't hurt anybody
The people you're afraid of are already playing the game as Tauren, Worgen, Pandaren, Draenei and Druids and are way too focused on getting gear with better numbers to hump your leg
This thread will be updated with any major news regarding Vulpera, however you are welcome to join the discord server at http://discord.gg/VWtmNME to stay privy to all the latest information
Credit goes to the Vulpera Hype Caravan for much of the work in this thread.
Breaking News Section!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6w6-0QCG10
Vulpera now have theme music!
is there anything that don't annoy the snowflakes anymore? I mean c'mon, are we just gonna get weaker every generation until we no longer exist?04/30/2018 08:58 AMPosted by Kikk04/30/2018 08:52 AMPosted by EmmiliaAre you sure you're in the right thread? This is a vulpera thread, all thhe High elf ones are over there... and there.... and there.....
Still on page 1 and we already have three (edit: four) comments from the OP... I think we both see where this is going to go.
I'm going to practice what I preach, though, and get out of this thread. Have fun finding overlong ways to say "I would like Vulpera as a playable race" infinity x2 times.
08/17/2018 11:24 PMPosted by Juggalo
If my complaining somehow makes Ogres not happen, there are bigger problems.
08/17/2018 11:11 PMPosted by Juggalohttps://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20767657782?page=8#post-154 just a reminder they need to die
08/18/2018 07:48 AMPosted by RĂchardI wonder what they taste li-IIIIII mean... I for one, am grateful for our new allies in this epic struggle against the Alliance.
Very grateful...
/me carefully organizes his spice cabinet.
08/18/2018 09:22 AMPosted by Chronormi08/18/2018 07:48 AMPosted by RĂchardI wonder what they taste li-IIIIII mean... I for one, am grateful for our new allies in this epic struggle against the Alliance.
Very grateful...
/me carefully organizes his spice cabinet.
Vulpera probably wouldn't mind you eating their corpse if they died by other means. Waste not want not is the life style you need to live in the desert.