Were you there for that one thread where the one guy was streaming at the time and gave us the means to find his vods and it turned out he was the problem and then he harassed everyone involved, including innocent guild members of one of the people in his group?
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Any reasonable person would disagree. Which is why the option to vote no exists.
There is no wrongful kick in a group of reasonable people is a take I would agree with. However I wouldn’t agree that all groups have reasonable people.
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Don’t think I posted in that one but the videos were comedy gold. Like bruh, if you’re gonna stream why would you keep incriminating vods of yourself. Hopefully he got actioned for being a tool.
Y’all need a sub forum for this or maybe start a “I got kicked, and here’s my story.” Megathread.
Getting hard to tell all these threads apart at this point.
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I got kicked from a raid last night after they realized I didn’t actually have aotc.
Got a few vault options out of it before they figured me out though. Things had gone fine as well so being removed and then whispered “Get aotc” was a surprise but I’ll take my heroic pieces and move on.
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Damn that’s rough, good on you getting gear though!
Pug life is tough, you have my respect.
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I do wonder how strong the correlation is between the unreasonable people in groups, and the people getting kicked from groups.
Surely if the majority of people are reasonable, that means most of the people getting removed from the groups are the unreasonable ones.
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I was like “Bro I was trying to get aotc.”
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Yeah I question if that is the case in day-to-day life much less on the internet, but agree.
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It may not be a large majority
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I have enough faith in humanity still to err toward believing most of us are reasonable. There are certain environments that just bring out the worst and throwing competition on top of anonymity makes for one of those environments.
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Vote kick works perfectly fine, these complaints only started becoming an issue after Blizzard took the lazy route and made the 30 min debuff a thing because of people farming loot from the first boss of a dungeon, instead of choosing to have all the loot drop at the end of the run like it did in m+ which would have solved that issue and avoided all this crying over kicks we are seeing now.
Back to the kick system, if I don’t want to play with you for any reason at all I should be able to vote kick you and see if the rest of the group also agrees, I mainly kick someone because they are simply terrible at the game and there really isn’t any excuse not to take 5 min and read a class guide or watch a YouTube video on it.
Now I know some of you might think you shouldn’t have to do this for the game and you would be right you technically don’t need to, which is why I’m vote kicking you because you couldn’t be bothered to put in any effort to begin with.
Truth.
I hope the other group members will be level headed and reasonable, but i am not surprised in the least when they aren’t.
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Hmmm, how old is our current system? How many changes has the rest of the game gone trough while this has lain dormant as “Good enough”?
It might be time to revisit it.
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“Why fix what isn’t broken”
And do what? No one can be arbiter of how people play together.
Why spend time and resources on making a new expansion, the current one is fine, its playable and not broken, donʻt need to do anything new. Just keep working on the current one.
Interesting thought.
That’s a big time false equivalency, but an interesting thought nevertheless.
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im seeing
VtK isnt broken dont improve on it
Current expansion isnt broken dont improve on it
might be a stretch but thats my train of thought.
Well the vote to kick system and expansions have vastly different goals pertaining to vastly different aspects of the game, and so will need to function differently to achieve those goals, but it’s always nice to hear what others think.