Nobody kicks people just for laughs? ok.
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Define “recourse for bad faith kicks”. Who gets to determine what is a bad faith kick and what isn’t? What kind of “recourse” do you want?
Just to get some ideas. Let’s suppose I’m in a run as the tank. Johnny 2x4 the DPS face pulls and dies because he refuses to run to me as the tank and dies away from the group. Johnny then starts raging at me saying how I’m bad, should unsub and being an obnoxious tool. I tell him to “run to me next time or (expletive) off”. Does he then get to demand I be punished for telling him off and kicking him? I don’t agree with every kick I’ve ever seen but that doesn’t make them bad faith.
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Ive already posted quotes refuting that assertion. MANY of these folks kick for giggles and have been VERY honest and open about it…which I detest the behavior but respect their honesty.
Level up your alt plz
It’s exceedingly rare because it requires 3 or 4 people to agree to kick someone just for laughs
What’s more common is someone is kicked for a reason, but doesn’t understand the reason, or refuses to admit that it’s valid, and thinks there’s no way it could have been something they did, or something they should have been kicked for
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a full on BAN should happen once a pattern is established.
Chronic abusers of any system should be permanently removed from the game. They clearly are there to DISRUPT game play.
This is the issue. Blizzard shouldn’t get to decide if Joe Schmo’s vote to kick the tank for moving too fast is justified. If others agreed, then that’s all there is to it. The team decided a majority vote. Joe shouldn’t get a black mark on their record for it or be stressed out if he tries to vote someone out whether Blizz will side with him or ban him. That’s ridiculous.
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Say that bolded part a little louder for the people in the back. I keep saying blizzard isn’t going to play mommy and daddy to groups and say “let your brother/sister play with you or else” nor should they.
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/drops mic
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Sorry I do not get baited into semantic & hypothetical arguments over things that maybe. I said what I said, accept it or don’t…
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Well maybe you can clarify what you said then and tell us what constitutes a bad faith kick and who gets to decide that officially?
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If you’re going to ask for something that potentially effects me and millions of other players, then I’m absolutely going to ask you to clarify. That’s not “baited into semantic & hypothetical”. You were the one that first said you wanted “recourse for bad faith kicks.” I asked you to clarify what you meant by recourse, and who gets to define bad faith kick.
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Ya’ll know damn well it wouldn’t be any of us, it would be Micro-Blizzard doing the policing… asking me is just your way to vent & what not.
No it’s asking you to clarify an extremely open ended statement. How are we defining “bad faith kick”. Second, what kind of “recourse” are you wanting for said bad faith kicks? We talking them being locked out of dungeon farming for awhile? We talking full on bans? What are we talking? You’re the one that brought it up, so why are you terrified now to clarify?
And why do they get to decide what is and isn’t “bad faith?” Why should people be afraid to kick someone for what they feel is legitimate, but Blizz may not see and then sanction the “bad faith?”
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How can Blizzard determine whether a kick was done in good or bad faith?
Wouldn’t the better judge of that be the players within each group?
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You forgot a reason in your list, not wanting to play with the player. Not wanting to play with someone for any reason is just as valid of a reason as any other. We aren’t on a school’s playground, people don’t have to play with you if they don’t want to.
Absolutely not
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Actually no it’s not a valid reason to waste someone’s time just because you are being petulant and don’t want to play with them because of their transmogs. That’s actually a pretty juvenile kind of an attitude to be willing to waste an hour of someone’s time just because you don’t like that they’re playing Panda or night elf LOL
you all are behaving this way because blizzard likes to play this little game of allowing you to treat others like this because they won’t just say that you’re not allowed to do it. Had they never made that asinine statement that it can’t be abused you all probably wouldn’t be doing this and you certainly wouldn’t be scapegoating blizzard
Imagine if the deserter debuff kept you out of PVE -AND- PVP!
If I ever get the debuff from one thing, I’ll just do the other thing
I think other players click yes because they worry that if they don’t then they become the target, or they don’t want to click no because that will hold things up, or they are newer players and assume the kick initiator knows what they are doing and don’t want to look like a noob by clicking no.
Unfortunately no books have been written regarding the psychology of what goes through someone’s head when that yes/no window appears on their screen if they didn’t expect it, but I would bet, they choose the red or blue pill depending mostly on how it will effect them and their WoW experience.