Yes, well I’ve made that exact point numerous times since war mode first rolled out and clearly there’s just as little chance of blizzard removing the bonuses as you claim there is of them implementing a system to remove inactive players from the game mode. The fact remains - having half the people with it turned on not actually doing it is negatively impacting the game mode, so leaving it be isn’t really a satisfactory solution to the problem.
So you are having a bad experience, thousands of others are not. Blizzard stop everything give this guy what he wants! Telling you to turn off warmode is a nice thing, we are trying to stop a wall of text that really says nothing but you got your feelers all up in knots.
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When someone is keen on trolling, they’re not gonna stop and people are gonna try to persuade him to stop posting about a pointless topic but it’s gonna continue so nah, it’s probably not enough to avoid the huge incoming wall of text.
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There’s a simple way they can guarantee everyone in warmode wants to pvp, but you probably aren’t gonna want to hear it.
Cut the rewards. Leave the honor talents, but no bonus xp or reputation.
As long as there are extra rewards for pressing a button, you’ll continue to see people in warmode who have no interest in world pvp. Myself included.
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War Mode is new, actually - and like any new system there is the potential for improvement and iteration. Unlike PVP and PVE servers it is not a one-time choice people made potentially years ago, it is a recent and conscious choice that people have made to enable world pvp - if people are doing that singularly for buffs and refusing to actually engage in that world pvp, it’s silly to allow them to keep the buffs and stay in war mode with the rest of us.
the point remains; people ignoring world pvp occurring two feet in front of them should not be “the basics of WPvP” in a world where enabling War Mode is a choice people make. If that is so common, then there is something wrong with the system.
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Seeing a lot of silly snark in here…
As for your suggestion TC, I would say that it would be far too easily abused. Honestly what needs to happen is that ALL of the PvE focused rewards need to be removed from Warmode. Cut the 10% bonus, cut the enlistment crud, put the focus back into the actual PvP and not into doing stuff inside a PvP mode.
People in Warmode should only be in Warmode if they are looking to fight and all the PvE bonuses do is promote players not doing that. It promotes people who could not care less about PvP entering it just to get better rewards and avoid conflict. Rewards should be based on killing other players, not bonuses for doing PvE content. I promise that would fix a lot of the problems Warmode has.
TC, I feel your pain. There have been so many times where I have started healing and helping someone getting ganked just to watch him run off as the gankers turn their attention to me in fights that would absolutely be winnable. Why? Because they just want their WQ bonuses, they have no interest in fighting.
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It isn’t new, it replaced the dying PvP servers, it’s an alternative. Nothing special about it. If you played on a PvP server you experienced the same issues you are describing now.
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‘‘The rest of us’’ lmao, the only one complaining here for not getting help while ganked is you.
And no, Warmode is not really new. Only the fact you can now switch bewteen PvE and PvP shards.
But let’s leave that behind.
You wanna kick someone off a shard, you know what that implies? Deleting the possible World Boss they are fighting or even elite, the mobs around, the herbs, the ore, everything is gonna get phased away simply because one hurt dude who didn’t get help thinks he has the authority to decide kicking someone off Warmode. So no thanks, thank goodness this is NEVER gonna happen.
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I have absolutely no issue hearing that - nor do I have even the slightest disagreement with it. I would happily keep war mode enabled even with pvp talents removed. I enjoy world PVP as a concept, I rolled on a PVP server on purpose and I don’t require hand-outs to keep it turned on… that is my entire point here… people who feel as I do should be the target audience for War Mode - NOT people looking to reap the benefits of its buffs but not interested in doing the world PVP it supposedly exists to encourage. I have no way to force myself into a war mode shard with people who actually want to PvP, so what is the alternative? Forcing those that don’t want to PVP out of the world-pvp mode they turned on.
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In the situation you described, if there was a war mode kick, guess who would be kicked out of it. You making the fuss, or the others who just want to accomplish what they were trying to do and you being a hindrance to their goals.
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This, nothing PvE related should exist within something PvP oriented, this is an easy fix for everything.
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Maybe so. But it would also make warmode rather unpopulated.
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People with full focus on PvE in warmode are not even population, because I bet they’re the ones complaining about it to begin with.
I disagree with the OP post about the vote-kicking feature but I’d gladly like to purge the PvE stuff from Warmode to keep the people who want to actually fight in it.
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Based on what statistics and even then why would that be bad?
Sharding already exists so even if it wasn’t AS populated, it would bring together those who do play in it to regulate population. Second, it cuts out those not looking to fight and promotes players fighting eachother by having player kills provide things like maybe loot bags or something.
Its time the PvE players stop leeching to Warmode for their benefit. It needs to be a system actually for PvPers and not people just leeching off a free bonus. If it is a smaller community, so be it.
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It would be great for me too. I have 4 characters that I keep up to date with AP and getting ganked and avoiding confrontation just to get a 10% bonus is just an unnecessary hindrance.
This is a point that I think OP and any1 who WPvPs agrees on, imagine being in a shard full of people actively fighting each other, would completely make Warmode as it was intended to be.
Judging by how Blizzard caters to casuals tho this is unlikely to happen.
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Or just dump this whole failed experiment and bring back the true PvP server options.
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War happens in warmode guys…dammmm
Lets vote to kick op out of it
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Blizzard doesn’t accept their mistakes, best we can make is suggest options to adapt… tho they also don’t heed to suggestions.
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