I like this, but it doesn’t go far enough.
They need to add “Vote to Praise” as an option. When you see a fellow group member do something great, you should let them know you appreciate them! How better to do that than to initiate a vote to praise your fellow group member? And they’ll feel special indeed when two other group members agree with you and join in the praise.
No, it really shouldn’t. The entire purpose of VTK was specifically given to us: to give player agency to randomized groups.
… they do. If you leave a group, you get a deserter debuff.
I’m not following this at all.
Can’t. This gets abused.
VTk cannot be abused, according to blue posts and the support article. People just don’t like being removed because the group didn’t want them there.
Are there stupid reasons? Yep. I always vote no to those. But that’s not “abuse.” It’s literally allowed.
Yes we should. Because we’re the ones dealing with someone trolling the group, harassing someone, just plain being unpleasant, pulling crap they shouldn’t, getting too far ahead and leaving everyone else to fend for themselves, etc. There are tons of reasons why people should have agency over who they are grouped with.
This forum is roughly 1% of the playerbase. It’s not a systemic issue.
Oh look… once again, the first or second most posts in these threads, most likely harassing people as usual. 
Yep. There it is. Never fails. Always the bully in these threads. Always.
Should 4 players have the power to toss a 30 minute debuff for low pettiness such as wearing a ugly transmog?
If they don’t want them there, then yes.
Sorry that person’s completely naked transmog wasn’t what others wanted to see. Or maybe it had particle effects that were making someone in the group sick. Or maybe they were using a toy that was making them too small for the healer to mouseover or target.
If the group decides, the group decides.
If you think it’s a stupid reason, do what the rest of us logical people do: vote no.
I think four players should have the power to remove someone from their group if they don’t want that player around anymore.
I’m not playing with your strawman arguments anymore.
Citation needed.
Blizzard put in the V2K system because of players requests. We were getting held hostage by other players who would refuse to do their job in a dungeon they didn’t like and would hold the group hostage.
As of this point Blizzard has decided if a majority of the players within a group don’t like how someone is playing, heck if they don’t like your mog they can kick you at will. So improve your performance, or stop running dungeons. Those are your options.
It does for those kicking. It removed the problem from their group. You. You may not like it, your feelings are probably going to get hurt, but see above. either improve your game or stop running dungeons.
“It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.”
I have not been kicked but lately there seems to be trolls who just vote kick to see if they can get everyone to press yes. It is amazing how many times it works…I accidentally pressed yes and had someone vote kicked who didn’t deserve it.
Dungeon groups are moving so fast that I instantly hit yes because the pop up was blocking mechanics I needed to pay attention to…not realize what I was hitting yes to.
They need to limit how often someone can initiate vote kicks in totality. If someone is vote kicking every group…it is most likely a problem with them.
Sad part is very few see this problem. And even less likely something will be done about it.
I felt so horrible because they vote kicked the tank’s wife. He was dumbfounded by it. And for whatever reason, he stayed and finished the run. I wouldn’t have. I apologized profusely.
If there is no vote to kick , there will be more diva tanks and healers popping up in your queue holding yall hostage - it stays
First you can’t kick in combat so that’s one knock against your story there. Second, you will never have a 100% abuse proof system. Are there those who abuse it, I’m sure there still is. However I’ve yet to see any concrete evidence of any kind that this is some kind of mass epidemic people make it out to be lately. During TBC timewalking I had to call 4 separate kicks. 2 for tanks doing a Leeroy and wiping the group because mobs were overtuned, then 2 more for guys that went offline. By the logic of people demanding vote kick be restricted I would have to either eat a dead group and leaver penalty or deal with a high repair bill because 2 guys refused to listen.
With that in mind let’s set that aside for the moment. What kind of stat or concrete anything can you or anyone who shares your views produce to demonstrate there is a problem? I do not accept anecdote on the forums alone as evidence because anyone can claim anything.
People keep going on about holding groups hostage. Like how many people still do that?
You don’t see them now , because both vote to kick and deserter buff exists . If you remove one of them then we are goin back to the terrible dungeon experience that was in wotlk .
The person who kicked probably wasn’t in combat? Can you think a little here?
Tank is moving ahead with the rest of the group in Stonevault, doing a medium sized pull while one person is not in combat yet does a vote kick…
The run was smooth as butter. I never saw it coming hence why it didn’t even occur to me what I was pressing yes to.
Like why the hell would I make this stuff up? heh.
Yeah someone is going to go out of there way to hold a group hostage in TWW expansion that happend in wotlk? When there is multiple gear routes now that wotlk didn’t have. Like are people that bored?
The simple fix for the people doing troll kicks would be to implement vote kick like LFR where it doesn’t do a pop up, it does a silent tally behind the scenes and when enough votes are received, removes the person.
Very few see the problem because it’s not a common or widespread problem that affects the vast majority of players, yeah, I agree with you there.
You would be surprised what people will say on here. Now that said I never said you were making anything up. I did say kicking in combat wasn’t possible because you made it sound like dude was in combat when the kick was initiated. That in mind you say there is an issue with people kicking just to kick people lately. Okay cool, how can you prove it? I don’t like abuse of features anymore than anyone else does, but I’ve yet to see anyone offer a shred of concrete anything to suggest there is an issue beyond forum anecdote which on its own proves nothing. If you or someone else can produce some concrete evidence to show that a large number of kicks are being done maliciously, I will join you in calls for revisions to the system. So far no one has offered anything concrete.