Void Elf-High Elf Customization Thread

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

I appreciate the use of comic sans on this one.

[Disdain-ravencrest]

If they ever remove faction barriers, something that is necessary to create a less toxic player base and something they already hinted at being open to, it won’t be a big deal anyways.

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

@Zugyr-wyrmrest-accord

If High Elves become a playable subrace through like, 3 hair colour options and maybe tattoos, they’ll never be able to play Horde allied Blood Elves. They’re being removed from the game. There will never be a focus on Thalassian lore again. It will all be Alliance exclusive, and we can’t have that.

Still funny that the Horde players whined in larger numbers about Blood Elves going Horde back when it was announced though. But lets all forget about the 10+ years of rampant homophobia slung at the males of the race from the Horde playerbase.

But apparently it’s /my/ fault that I got harassed for picking a race when I was still new to the game.

Dude, anti-Belfers harrasing you both because it was “trendy” AND because some of the TBC Belf players were indeed massive a-holes would be “magically” fixed implementing High elves how exactly?

The way I see it, this changes nothing. People who plays Horde usually does so for either meta reasons or because they genuinely like better the faction (my case personaly…and no, I haven´t met “rampant homophobia slung” with my male Belf toon from the players, frankly the worst cases have come from the terribad cheap jokes the devs insist on putting in-game.

Why some of us would desire to keep some semblance of difference character customization wise? Simple, because I´d like the same treatment all races got delivered to my fav race, no more and no less (so, just as much as my Mag´har Orcs can´t use green skins nor my HM Tauren can put on feathers nor my regular trolls put on golden tattoos, yes I´d like some MINIMAL visual difference between the Belves and the Velves, period. And this can be achieved even if you people get “regular” hair colors… heck get the stupid jewerly, after all YOU seem to be the ones actually “excited” about it´s existence while I see nobody Horde side paying attention to it ever).

I just want some exclusive customizations for the Belf race, that DO make sense for the race, that DON´T cry “niche” AND more importantly: that can be used to make a difference between both races… cause while both yes “start” biologically as “High elves”, their story, their culture and the magic they use basically take them in different directions.

@Tyiel-the-scryers

It is very odd how the Horde hated it and said it would ruin their faction, and I would lay odds most of those fighting against the High Elf community so vehemently are ones that initially bemoaned Elves being Horde.

Considering the agenda doesn´t compute, doubt so dude. It´s waaay more coherent to assume anti-Horde Helfers and anti-Belfers to push, QQ and moan about “Belves ruining the Horde”. Cause for both groups the result of the Belves getting kicked out of the faction is the same: the “race” becomes “free” to be picked on by the Alliance, period.

@Lore-herod

Not really
Subtract about 50-ish likes from Zandae’s alts and about 3-5 from your own alts.

Hey “Lore” remember that time you tried to make fun of me about people on your side vbeing interested in picking the Belf race apart up to the very green eyes? Guess what, I found exhibit A:

@Zugyr-wyrmrest-accord

Reminder that Void Elves are Blood Elves, and by that logic, the new customization should give them the fel green eyes too because they’re literally training Blood Elves defecting in Telogrus, and those just studying under them wouldn’t have the mutated skin and tentacles because they are unable to recreate the original events that mutated Umbric’s squad.

See what I´m talking about?

@Zugyr-wyrmrest-accord

We always used to joke that “high elves” were the “break in case of emergency” class and they already shattered the glass. They can press the button to get hype going, and they know it. It’s already been brought up in interviews.

Dude if you honestly believe the bulk of the playerbase actually cares for the Barbie minigame we have going with the “customizations”… you are wrong. It is limited to weirdos like us.

Most of the players? Paid attention the first week tops and basically forgot “customizations” were a thing… they care waaay more over the meta aspects.

@Zugyr-wyrmrest-accord

I linked both WC2 art and BFA.

It’s almost like the race has been connected to the Alliance for longer than they’ve been in the Horde,

The connection was waaay weaker too bro… to the point the elves had no issues giving the methaporical middle finger to the Humans and ditched them at the first chance they got.

Did some of the High elves stay with the Humans on the Alliance? sure. Did the High Elf kingdom stay with the Humans on the Alliance? Nope as far as WC3 -you know, the continuation oif WC2- is concerned.

You guys can absolutely explore all you want the lives and unlives and whatever you desire about those Alliance affiliated High elves? of course. Does this have to involve the kingdom somehow? Nope, not at all. As a matter of fact the narrative pushed BOTH groups in different directions, dude.

And now I think I know why you got “harrased” back in TBC if your posts and overall “attitude” is taken into account.

@Greatbrae-dalaran

Blood elves would not have monopoly rights on that, every race that would worship the light in that case should get those customizations. So I doubt that is what be fans really wants. They want lightforging.

Personally I believe giving access to “yellow” runic tattoos to compliment the eyes would sufice, Grand. Cause yes, while ALL races should theorically get a visual reprsentation of the faith, so far only the Elves are the ones that DO manifest some physiological errr… “changes” related to how much they work/use some especific magical source as per the lore (Human warlocks don´t get green eyes no matter how many demons they summon to play with, Belves on the other hand got green eyes merely by passing regularly close to a Fel infused crystal… means elves are more sensitive to manifest magically induced mutations just by proxy of living near any magical source regularly, nothing else.

@Leinadh-stormrage

I don’t know. Ask playable Demon Hunters why they keep using Arcane Torrent.

Gameplay dude, cause if we are VERY lore strict Belf DH aren´t even related to the kingdom of Quel´thalas… they are 100% Illidari. Just like the Nelf ones didn´t bat an eyelash regarding their “capitol” burning like a mashmallow on a fire.

Hero classes follow a different set of rules, dude (reason why they are called “Hero”… cause their game mechanics AND their customizations aren´t limited by the lore of the RACE, they are limited by the lore of the HERO that was used as an inspiration to implement them).

They are just “Blood elves” for gameplay reasons dude but yes… as far as “lore” is concerned, they´re half demons and actually separated from their “parent” race.

@Zugyr-wyrmrest-accord

Blood Elf players cried because their eyes were too big and the boys went :3 , while my secondary race lost their skull face entirely.

Your secondary race has lost waaay more than the skull face dude… they are at risk of losing their entire identity. My condolences regarding you people getting saddled with Calia Menethil (talk about burns done by the devs´s lore ignorance).

@Disdain-ravencrest

My point is that the lines are meaningless. We’re gatekeeping shades, not even strictly colors at this point because we don’t want the other faction to have them. It’s just pettiness for the sake of pettiness. This is why I believe factions have to go.

Dude, toxicity won´t be solved by making the players “play together or else”… I for one would rather not have to dealt with the idiocy related to the Alliance pet characters more than I already have to. I´d absolutely hate to play in a game without a vehicle (Horde) to escape Blanduin, Jaina and the rest of the 10th rate tier “Human Potential protagonists” of this game.

The factions are NOT causing no “toxicity” on the players… humans irl ARE toxic, and will continue to be so regardless of a game, period. What your suggestion will cause is a massive flagging on the “silence” tool thanks to players literally acting like douches to each others with the help of more direct means, period.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Disdain-ravencrest

If they ever remove faction barriers, something that is necessary to create a less toxic player base and something they already hinted at being open to, it won’t be a big deal anyways.

This will not change what Void Elves are.

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

This will not change what Void Elves are.

How rude of you to point out something so obvious man!

But I mean, me thinks he’s hoping to be able to play a blood elf without having to play Horde, because, well…

[Disdain-ravencrest]

The skin color change begs to differ with you.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

There is no lore to explain it… Its just a customization option. No Void Elves have those tones save one.

The devs even said it was to allow players to choose to be a high elf if they wanted.

[Lore-herod]

To be fair, it’s safe to assume that they’re still considered canon since they’re part of how the player appears. And as the two of us have discussed, it’s overall in limbo territory. Still, the interview with the lead narrative designer tilts the limbo scale towards us.

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

@Lore-herod

To be fair, it’s safe to assume that they’re still considered canon since they’re part of how the player appears.

You really only listen to what devs say whenever it’s convenient eh?

[Magnificent-wyrmrest-accord]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

The devs even said it was to allow players to choose to be a high elf if they wanted

i dont recall them saying it means void elves are pure high elves. they basically said here, make of it what you will

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

I made a discovery more important than this back and forth with a wall.

Why no one told me the slime cat can actually find a slime bird and have it sitting on its head???

@Magnificent-wyrmrest-accord

i dont recall them saying it means void elves are pure high elves. they basically said here, make of it what you will

Because you know, a writer tweeting something, means no tails for worgen, but a dev saying something in an interview, it’s open to interpretation. Why? Good question.

[Lore-herod]

@Midare-area-52

a dev saying something in an interview, it’s open to interpretation.

The Danuser interview isn’t entirely open to interpretation, Anti-HElfers simply discredit it or twist his words within it as that is the only way for them to deny it as a source when used by Pro-HElfers

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

@Lore-herod

The Danuser interview isn’t open to interpretation, it’s your group that choose to ignore it since that fits your narrative of denial.

Yet you are interpreting what he said as “whatever you want to make with them is canon” when it’s not what he said, Mr. “I only pay attention to the parts of the lore that can validate my stance”.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

Is this the interview I agree with where he says that whatever you want your character’s story to be that’s what your character is?

The one a lot of people twist to mean “We’re going to give you all the specific cosmetic options that one certain group has been crying over the fact that they aren’t on the Alliance?”

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

@Lore-herod

The Danuser interview isn’t open to interpretation, it’s your group that choose to ignore it since that fits your narrative of denial.

dude, the Danuser interview literally says “we will give tools so people can RP their headcanons”… there´s a LOONG way from that to “all and any headcanons ARE canon as per right now and we will give visual ways to represent those!!!”.

The only “headcanons” that would be valid will be the ones directly aknowledged by the narrative, apart from that? Nothing.

The customizations are NOT a “lore” game, they are a “money revenue” game. And frankly I sometimes wonder why we all bother, cause let´s be real: most people don´t give an actual censored word over this Barbie minigame… most players care waaay more over the actual gameplay than the color of their toon´s nails or something.

And I´m still waiting on your “opinion” regarding the Exhibit A I pointed to you, Mr. "
We don´t want to pick apart the Belf race".

[Sarallesta-sargeras]

@Midare-area-52

You already got skin colors, you can pretend you’re a high elf.

But it’s pretend, you know, the basis of RP.

Nothing will change the canon that void elves are void elves.

No, it is the fact that you’re against the comments of the devs when they told us we can play out which fantasy we wanted, why? Because you just want people to roll horde to be a High Elf. It is a no brainer when people can easily see right through.

If it is anything to do with High Elves, it a game of headcanon and contradiction with you Midare. It is like you make it your only goal is to be sweet for one group who makes it there goal to be sour on a request from another group.

Yes, there arguments go back and fowards, but you don’t really bring any reason on why you don’t like it. Lann doesn’t bring any reason either. Same with Tarrok and all the others. The only excuse you all bring is “It will ruin mah Blood Elves. Stop taking from mah Blood Elves.”

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Lore-herod

To be fair, it’s safe to assume that they’re still considered canon since they’re part of how the player appears.

It would be if there were any natural skin toned void elves.

Anywhere.

As it is there are not.

The devs say they added this so we had choice to be what we wanted. (whichever side of the hair color debates you’re on.) rping a high elf is very possible but that doesn’t mean the skin tones are canon to void elves.

Until blizzard actually adds such lore, which I very much hope they will, it’s just not canon.

All that said I do understand you and others viewpoint. I just don’t agree.

@Magnificent-wyrmrest-accord

i dont recall them saying it means void elves are pure high elves. they basically said here, make of it what you will

Yes.

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

@Sarallesta-sargeras

No, it is the fact that you’re against the comments of the devs when they told us we can play out which fantasy we wanted, why? Because you just want people to roll horde to be a High Elf. It is a no brainer when people can easily see right through.

@Midare-area-52

Yet you are interpreting what he said as “whatever you want to make with them is canon” when it’s not what he said

Stop twisting what was said. You being able to play whatever you want doesn’t mean it’s canon.

I don’t want people like you in the Horde, I’ll give it to you straight. But if you really want to play one so badly that you can’t live without it (apparently) the option it’s there for you.

@Sarallesta-sargeras

If it is anything to do with High Elves, it a game of headcanon and contradiction with you Midare. It is like you make it your only goal is to be sweet for one group who makes it there goal to be sour on a request from another group.

You can try to guilt trip me all you want but it won’t work. You complaining over pretty elves in a game it’s the most first world problem ever, and I have no sympathy for that.

@Sarallesta-sargeras

Yes, there arguments go back and fowards, but you don’t really bring any reason on why you don’t like it.

Blood Elves and Void Elves have the right to be their own thing, without people like you trying to take away their uniqueness because you can’t accept High Elves as you want them aren’t and won’t be playable.

[Zugyr-wyrmrest-accord]

@Lore-herod

@Midare-area-52

a dev saying something in an interview, it’s open to interpretation.

The Danuser interview isn’t open to interpretation, it’s your group that choose to ignore it since that fits your narrative of denial. You do you though, Miss “I’ll talk about Worgen in a thread that has nothing to do with Worgen”

Give worgen tails. Give void elves blonde hair.

[Lore-herod]

The original Allied Races still have a part to play in World of Warcraft’s story

There’s just one question: If they come from a small group of Silvermoon Exiles, how are they an Allied Race? Where do the numbers come from?

“They start out as a small group,” Danuser continues. “But it’s natural as other elves have found out about them — elves who are interested in new sources of magic, power, or opportunities — would see if they could undergo a similar process. They’re not … recruiting , necessarily, but they’re open to those who show a similar interest.”

Danuser confirms new characters are not from the original group.
Pro: +1 | Anti: -1