Blizz should delete versa and bring back multistrike… such a fun stat
This is issue with corrupted gear not the stat itself. The only fix would be to disable corruptions in pvp.
oh, wowhead took me to classic >->;
~6700 active to have 40% damage reduction
This is kinda possible. You can have base Versatility around 2.5 k , after procs + corrupted gear , Azerite stuff and buffs , it can go over 6 k
then people would complain about all the gold they spent getting corruptions for pvp.
it all goes away in Shadowlands so no such fix will get applied, creating more problems.
if Verse gets nerfed in arenas, everyone goes back to one shot games. world of RNG.
I actually really like what they have done with this patches itemisation in concept (took them long enough to arrive where we are now). I agree though they either need a corruption-like gimmick sitting on top of the bland itemisation stat system or they need to add more stats/complexity to it, half the secondary stats are boring. Crit, haste are probably the better of the two mostly because mastery/vers are just linear increases that don’t really do much for a spec.
It might be interesting if blizzard added a luck stat to interact with procs/rppm procs, or an empower stat to extend the duration of buffs/debuffs etc
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The thing with vers is that if your stacking it for pvp then you’re ignoring a ton of other important stats; without haste you can’t get regen or cast time down, without crit you can’t get a knockout punch, without mastery you’re shooting yourself in the foot for a lot of classes since the gains on damage output is greater then what vers can offer.
Like sure: you’ll have reliability down pat, but you’re still vulnerable to the stuns, GCD, bleeds and control effects that routinely decide combat.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/gékz
54% passive vers before any procs or essences.
This is what most of the ladder is wearing atm.
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Lmao as a Disc priest, this is awesome!!
90 resistance. Full Gems near max ilvl. less than 800 stat in Mastery, and Crit. idk where they found 1700 for haste. oh right, the cloak and neck give half that.
all the gear is haste Verse.
And everyone else is the same.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/prev
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/tichondrius/blindgator
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/malganis/zenli
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/stormscale/ælyk
^ 57%
Buff mastery and make it do interesting things, like increase proc rates.
last one, instead of having 187% Mastery they went with 57% verse. which means half. Less than half the potential damage they could have. for ~30% damage reduction. 
it has value but the trade off is in killing power.
Don’t need killing power with a stacking healing debuff the longer you live, you just outlast your opponents until they can’t outheal you.
It’s really effective but most people hate watching / playing that meta, which is why some people are annoyed by it.
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Didn’t Method loose using a verse build vs damage?
sure, outlasting them is good. G pyro is a lower threat. well until you go up vs a max haste Mage and they get off 3-4 shots before you can interrupt one.
Some classes can get away with low vers, mage and lock being 2 of them.
I’m having a look through the ladder atm and most locks are running 40% haste and 60-80% mastery.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/malganis/thugonomicz
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/illidan/trolltactics
Imagine a 40% haste lock lobbing 1 second fast cast bolts at you for 300k because you have no verse though, you’ll just instantly lose.
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60 verse meas 30 resist. 33% less would still have a 200k hit
point, is. its not Over powered. its powered just right. like having PVP power and resist. but at the cost of raw damage.
going full verse isn’t as powerful as going anything else unless your goal is to take less damage and not to deal as much damage as possible.
It is or the best players in the game wouldn’t be doing it.
Those are some insane numbers.
This does align with my experiences some. Although I’m not using stat corruptions on days I get the haste manapearl I am absolutely deleting things.
I don’t think it’s vers that’s inherently OP. Just the general power spike behind stacking stats.
While it Might be possible to hit 120% verse doing some crazy things like using a verse trinket from TW , i have seen some mages get over 400% active haste… imagine 400% haste on Greater Pyro Blast.