Which makes it…useless then? Why even give one if that’s the case haha…
Edit: I get what you’re saying, delete the utility ability!
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I mean, useless to you and me, useful to the majority of players who don’t do high end content.
Casuals will get a lot of use out of it doing things like dailies.
I’m not sure how a blink will help with quests like “Kill 0/1” for a daily. I get what you’re saying but it’d be better to delete all of them than restricting them in any forms of content.
Wait, they actually added a CHEAT DEATH to the already best utility Covenant?
Blizzard are straight up trolling here.
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The fact that it even made it this far enough in discussion to be datamined proves that Blizzard just have no clue.
No clue, seriously no clue.
Next they will add… Actually struggling to think of what’s equally broken lol
Watch it go live and then for Blizzard to forget to make every soak mechanic piece immunities/cheat deaths.
I think at this point the only thing that would make Venthyr more broken is if they dominated throughput as well.
I think the more funny situation will be when it goes live and gets nerfed to the ground 3 months in.
And then suddenly we get to hear from people who chose other covenants that its you’re fault for picking the OP one.
Yea I have been trying to think of something else but I got nothing. Other than an immunity but a cheat death is similar obviously.
The Night Fae and Necro have very limited cheat deaths. Night Fae requires you to not take damage for 4 seconds basically, and the Necro only gives you a pseudo Priest Angel form, where you can’t heal any damage you take and have reduced throughput til you die.
Meanwhile, the Venthyr gives you a straight up damage immunity AND temporal shield effect for that 4 seconds.
Necrolord also gives full immunity to crowd control. that is pretty up there.
Imagine you paid to go to a basketball game and all they did was dribble over and over. Nobody tried to take shots because it was too risky. “But what impressive fundamentals!” you say. Bro, “fundamentals” don’t excite me. I might say they’re good players, but I don’t pay to go to the game for that. I can watch that from home on my TV. I pay to be excited. Hell, the risk itself IS exciting, even if the pay-off doesn’t deliver.
To get off that analogy and get back to the point… WoW is stale. It’s just stale. This is a 16 year old game. I want to look at an expansion and feel a sense of uncertainty about it. To not know what is going to happen. We already know we’re going to get 4 raid tiers, a mega-dungeon, maybe another dungeon or two sprinkled in. We’re going to see some bolted on features post-launch. We’re going to get patch islands. At the end of the expansion we’re going to defeat the villain.
It’s all so trite. I want something where I don’t know what’s going to happen. Covenants may blow up the game, but as far as I’m concerned it’s better to do something that could blow up the game than just let it wither and die. I literally ignored BFA because it didn’t promise to do anything Legion didn’t already do (and BFA did it worse) and the only reason I’ve resubbed now is getting my alts ready in anticipation for Shadowlands. If Shadowlands didn’t have Covenants as they are, if Covenants were simply a new row of talents, I’d have written the game off completely.
Imagine a Necro Destro Lock in PvP that you can’t stop chaining Chaos Bolts into people.
SL is gunna be a clown fiesta.
You’re gunna be boned if you’re not Venthyr for PvE and Necro for PvP it looks like.
To bad i have no plans on going venthyr on my main 
5 Avenger’s shields is just too hilariously fun to pass up.
Introducing bad game systems simply because they’re different isn’t the way to go my dude.
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If those things were stale for me I would suggest changes to those. Not something else unrelated.
Despite the imbalance, I still don’t want door of shadows removed or even nerfed 
Neither do I. Most of the abilities are really cool. I want them to be accessible to everyone so I can play with all of them. I don’t want anyone’s toys taken away. Toys are fun.
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Man if we can swap between these abilities, this could be the most fun expansion ever.
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I literally just explained that if you look at systems as expansion sellers, and that’s what they are, any system that drums up excitement and helps sell expansions is better than Blizzard not being able to market core features. The entire argument in my post is that your sentence is wrong,.
You’re supposed to reply with an argument. Y’know, something like “you can sell lots of copies of the expansion initially, but in the long term it will drive people away”. Anything. Something. At least try dude, lol.
Here I am literally arguing with myself because folks here don’t know how to actually talk about things and would seemingly rather just stamp their feet in anger. Lol.