Varok Saurfang: A Traitor's Life

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Someone’s upset their waifu is a terrible character :slight_smile:

How does it feel to be following a 9 year old throwing tantrums everytime her one trick pony strategies fail?

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Death by murloc swarm. A fitting end for such a terrible character.

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All this cinematic showed was all the over hype memes of him cleaving people down in the battle, was him merely killing weak opponents. He didn’t know which way was left from right and sylvanas showed everyone that. His reputation exceeded his actual combat abilities. Just like thrall, they don’t get to hide because their cowards with no real combat expertise.

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Getting shot by an arrow like in Cataclysm would be nice too. Why do all deaths need to be glorious, just let her choke on a meatball or something.

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Trolling level: 2/10

Maybe if you’re a nice little cow, you’ll get to sit in Anduin’s lap next to Genn.

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I’m pretty sure Sylvanas used the war as a distraction for releasing N’zoth, which is the real problem. A lot of good ending a war does when the world is destroyed.

Typical Alliance response. Oh no they are right lets start calling it trolling!

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Oh, come on the Horde is full of traitors, even Sylvanas was a traitor during the events of MoP. The irony of her saying that when she is a traitor was not lost on me.

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Maybe if your a good little scourge and stop acting out, you won’t get tossed on a mass grave.

Honestly we really need to clear the obvious scourge out of the forsaken ranks.

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"I’m going to doggedly follow the side that has absolutely no narrative foundation for victory, zero sustainability in terms of keeping the plot running, and clearly is following the exact same trajectory as the last time this happened. This is including dividing the Horde, sparking a rebellion, the exact brand of dark magics she’s indulging in.

This is a good plan that I can’t see anything potential pitfalls or problems with."


Some of the Horde has the memory capacity of goldfish, I swear.

It’s not evil, it’s amnesia!

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Who is a bigger traitor then?
Sylvanus who wants to destroy the very society she was given control of, lies to its people in huge ways, starts a war for the purpose of pursuing her personal agenda of the annihilation of all life, including the lives of the forsaken and the rest of the horde, and unnecessarily sacrifices its soldiers at the battle of Lordaeron (she could have given them all gas masks, but didn’t).

Or Saurfang, for realizing that person had to be stopped and working with the Alliance to stop it?

I have a difficult time supporting the argument that Saurfang was somehow a bigger traitor than Sylvanus was.

Just because a person is the leader doesn’t mean they can’t betray the people she led. A leader like that doesn’t deserve loyalty from anyone.

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She didn’t kissy kissy with the champion at Ghostlands. Sorry, folks, her evil black heart has been taken by Nathanos.

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And then you complain about how wrong it was to burn down the Night Elves and how it was “genocide”. Yet here you are making a genocide threat to the Forsaken.

Cant blame her, Nathanos could easily steal my fel corrupted heart. :green_heart:

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Follow the story of MoP. Garrosh kicked the non-Orc races out of the Horde. It’s not treason if the Warchief dissolves the old horde.

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I’m loving the gymnastics some people have to do to make Sylvanas right and Saurfang wrong. It’s hilarious: from skipping lines in the cinematic to misrepresenting facts. Definitely worth the read for comedic effect.

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That’s what Garrosh tried to do. Look where it got him.

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Typical. Can’t argue their points. Pretends the terrible storytelling is a masterpiece.

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It’s kind of moot, Saurfang already betrayed Garrosh.