Sweety, I don’t think you know how any of this works
The logical thing to do is not play on the overpopulated faction, isnt it? Horde players facing 1+ hour queues, Alliance get 5 minutes, any one with half a brain who was actually enthusiastic about pvp would re-roll to Alliance instantly.
Yet you’re all still hanging out in Org qq’ing about those one hour queues.
That would require the AFK kick timer to work.
Horde absolutely had instant ques and we’re drastically the smaller faction of the two because everyone rolled the pretty female humans or night elves.
Nobody knew about racials when the game dropped.
I know because I enjoyed pvp at the time.
I re rolled horde specifically for those instant ques.
That’s why this sudden excuse of “I rolled horde because of athstetics bro” doesn’t fly with me.
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The AFK issue seems to be growing. I just got out of an AV where about half the raid was in the starting cave the whole time. Eventually, the Horde pushed back to the cave. Those of us who kept trying probably became worth zero honor. At that point, the Horde finished off Vann and moved on.
We ended up with nearly 2k bonus honor. While I appreciate the effort of that team that got us that honor, I feel that made it “worth it” to those who AFK’d in the cave.
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Way less time than alliance
Alliance have a waaaaay shorter queue time because…well, alliance players simply do not want to pvp.
It’s sad really. But all the “hardcore”, maybe I’m being to nice on that, most of them went horde for “better racials”. This was being talked about all the time when classic was announced and prior to it’s launch. A lot of life time alliance pvpers went horde. Some horde went alliance to not pvp.
If anything, it’s the communities fault. Saying horde is “better” because of racials (subjective to say the least unless WoTF for fears and MC).
But at the end of the day, I don’t want to just queue for AV. I want to queue for WSG but when I see my roaster vs a horde premade roaster, 99% of the time, we do NOT have a healer. Horde have 3 when this happens. It’s mind blowing how many premades I was facing in a 2-3 hours of wanting to atleast attempt to get rep for WSG. But couldn’t because of the premades. Yes I know I can premade, but I simply don’t want too. IF you are horde and need to premade…I’m sorry but you just proved how garbage you are for needing that ace. Good on you for, you know facing a pug, but that’s nothing to brag about.
No one thought intellect was better than spell power lol… I swear you guys simultaneously have rose colored glasses and OK BOOMER syndrome when it comes to Vanilla.
Except that’s not how Honor works. Instant AV queue’s mean you HAVE to be in AV constantly. Horde isn’t competing against Alliance for Honor. While you slave away in run after run, we just have to do as much work as the other Horde. With queue times preventing that from being more than one game per hour we get plenty of downtime to actually shower or eat.
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I actually played in Vanilla buddy, check the Tabard. I never ONCE had an instant AV queue. EVER. And i played on Dark Iron where the PAA (Penny Arcade Alliance) outnumbered us 10-1. There weren’t as many people overall back then which means the population disparity didn’t make as big of a difference. Keep spouting absolute BS as fact though, it amuses me.
PS:
These two statements do not work together. If no one knew about racials, then why else would i have chosen Horde than aesthetics? Especially on a server where AGAIN, Horde was outnumbered 10-1.
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Check the Tabard? What does that even mean?
I remember right before Call to Arms patch, AV was 45 min queue as Ally on Smolderthorn. Also, I win more games early morning.
The tabard i use could only be gotten in Vanilla, admittedly the tail end of it but it’s proof i played at that time. Since Achievements didn’t exist back then it’s one of the FEW proofs.
You are confused.
In vanilla, nobody knew about racials so the majority all rolled pretty alliance toons as mains. Which cause a drastic 3-1 imbalance in population on most servers. Especially pve servers.
Which is why blizzard gave horde pretty bloodelves while alliance got squid people in bc.
In classic it’s been 15 years of coming to the realization that horde racials are substantial ly better for the individual as such this is why you are seeing the opposite population imbalance on pvp servers resulting in these balanced que times even though the overall population is much closer to 50/50.
Nobody cares about your individual experience here. We are talking about over all numbers.
And I played I’m vanilla and I do remember instant que times on horde. So you say no, I say yes…I have a logic reason as to why things were balanced back then you have personal experience we should all just take ya for your word on.
Good day
Get gud.
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eh, its exaggerated greatly. i just finished exalted grind on my warlock - you start with maybe 1 or 2 afk.
people afk as the game goes on because of one of two things:
-horde camping the cave entrance
-games that are blatantly a loss being turtled to the 30 min mark so horde can get max honor
and frankly, i cant blame them. why hand the horde free hks or make this terrible meta MORE rewarding for the opposing faction?
Nice backtrack, but you specifically stated you don’t believe i chose Horde for the aesthetics but clearly i had no interest in being a pretty elf boy if noone knew about racials.
Maybe you’re placing your own ignorance as “everyones experience,” just as you accuse me of doing. BTW post on your Vanilla toon if you’re going to claim something like that. Instant queue’s never happened.
It’s not a back track at all.
I am stating the motivations of the playerbase avatar selection at vanilla launch. Which is directly related to the release of pretty blood elves and squid people for BC. (alliance were lacking large toons with big shoulders like an Orc or Tauren and Horde were lacking a pretty race)
I fully expect you to not admit you rolled horde for racials. Of course you didn’t. And I fully expect that you refuse to take the 2 weeks to level an alliance toon to 60 casually because your love for PvP is trumped by your fantasizing over your horde toon because to you;
avatar prettiness > the ability to play the actual game.
(means you would rather wait in a que for 20 mintues to play one match so you can look at your character and revel in how cool it looks!)
I mean we all know you are a pvp pro star, right? So why would you wanna challenge yourself by playing the side that’s currently getting beaten up and face off against your peers?
lol.
It’s almost too easy.
Keep personalizing your argument because you dont’ have any real points.
I rolled Horde because i didn’t want to be a human in a fantasy game. Or a short drunken human, or a baby, or a long eared human. I made that choice 15 years ago and it hasn’t changed. And i couldn’t give a damn why you or anyone else picked what you picked. It’s not an excuse for your side just giving up and whining when you don’t win regardless.
It’s not personalizing.
I am telling you why the MAJORITY OF PLAYERS (that’s not necessarily you) made their selection. Both in Vanilla and now in Classic and why those differ.
Demographics and trends are not just a “thing”. They explain cause and effect. Which I’ve done. It’s not a coicedence that most pvp servers are overpopulated with horde or that in a game with a 50/50 overall faction population, there is this massive que time for the horde side.
But I could care less about what motivates you. You are hardly a gamer. You are still too caught up in looks in a game that’s 15 years old now.
That is amazing in it’s own right…but hardly says anything counter to what I’ve been saying.
You do you fella. If that involves you just gleefully looking at how cool your 15 year old game art toon looks when it dances or whatever it is you do when you are sitting around waiting to play the actual game, so be it.
LOL.
I feel like You’re insulting everyone’s intelligence here. PvE part of the game was the majority of the game. Multiple raids, only 3 bgs. Alliance has paladins, and that supposedly made raiding easier. Nothing to do with avatars.
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I think this sounds perfect.