Upcoming Class Tuning Changes – March 29

All bosses is a meme metric when raids have damage amp phases, or council fights it just shows which classes have big aoe for the big fights which is why ww exists on the upper half of the list. Its also a weird time to look at top percentiles because most players aren’t rocking sets yet so top parses are basically 4 set players. Similarly all bosses mythic has a low population atm which also hurts it as a overall my class is viable list. Funnily enough for some fights there are litterally one representative of a specific spec on certain fights, like mythic dausegne has one aff lock logged.

In the statistics that aren’t shown in your image you will see 2000+ bm hunters logged in mythic for all bosses because its usable in raid and less then 100 outlaw rogues accross all bosses. Amusingly despite being number 2 on your chart there are 400 survival hunters parsed vs 2000 bm.

Note I have no idea whether bm needs buffs or not I’m just saying your image is disingenuous.

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Well I mean you’re posting in a tuning post when your class doesn’t need tuning, there are classes with a 4pc and they still are doing garbage damage. I don’t understand why you are trying to call attention to your class if its fine as it is.

The comment I initially commented my response to from the hunter was about tier.

I think you may need a lesson in reading comprehension.

Lol trying to insult me cause I called you out, you’re still in here posting about how your tier needs attention when it doesn’t.

When i clicked the BM update i immediately knew the “3% increase” was in fact yet another nerf to our characters - i will respond with another psychotronic bombardment of your characters using the beast master and venthyr covenant development teams as scapegoats of psi, in particular!

Were asking for a 4pc tuning not a damage tune, lets get the straight here, I think I was arguing with someone else on here about this very same thing, something like they cant tune our damage by tuning the set or that CDR is a damage increase, well YEAH IT IS, if its reset. if the CDR is not reset and its only a 30 second reduction based off how many abilities you can get off, thats not a dps increase

bad ideas u are pretty much undoing all the nerfs u did u are buffing monks They are already op as hell

Yeah, probably a better way to get basically the same effect on ST (where destro needs help) is a 12.5% buff to chaos bolt.

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Frost Mage needs help on very large pulls in higher keys. I am severely lagging behind most other classes in 7+ targets in AoE. Doing 20-25k DPS, sometimes 30k, which other classes can do 30-60k depending on CDs and the player.

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Frost is fine, because you can do that every pull. Yes, icy veins isn’t as impactful as other spec CDs are, but that’s mostly offset by near 100% uptime.

Do you play a Frost Mage? I can’t do that every pull lol. What are you smoking.

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Yes. I do. 90% uptime in icy veins is low.

What does IV have to do with AOE? more haste? That’s nice. Unless you’re running GF, which most people doing 15+ and up keys don’t, that doesn’t do much. Resetting Frozen Orb is the goal, and that is what gives you the highest AOE damage.

But in doing so, you need a bunch of setup, between burning low damage flurries, to putting up blizzard every 4 seconds while rune of power is active, and then recasting RoP for more setup.

This all leads to a fight between ice lances during RoP and casting Blizzard to reset FO for more damage.

The issue is that during that time, melee is going nuts. Between the global and the Blizzard cast, I am already dropping 25%-50% below them. Like I said, large AOE pulls need some help.

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I’ve been trying Freezing winds NF, and slick ice necro. From what I’ve been seeing, the fae build is still doing competitive AOE. Not keeping up with destro on the mega 1st half of halls pulls, but destro can only do that every 90 sec or so with legendary. If the group is killing CDR relic, I haven’t been having any issues doing respectable trash damage every pull.

And this is all before we factor in funnel.

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When 9.2 came out I do what I always do, not being a high end player anymore due to being kind of casual, but not, lol…is look up different Mages on Raider IO and see what they are doing.

For the first time this xpac I am seeing mixed results, but the one thing I am not seeing a lot of is Frost and Night Fae. Shifting Power is still just so bad on anything less than 5 targets it isn’t worth it to me. Not unless your group is catering to your playstyle. And standing still for 4 seconds isn’t possible in a lot of cases.

I’ve seen FW Necro a lot. I am still Venthyr with FW. I would try Necro but the defensive is not helpful for frost with barrier, 2 ice blocks and invis. Seems redundant. But I do know those soulbinds are ahead by a good bit on Bloodmallet.

I’m even seeing some rumblings of NF disciplinary command being good now, but I have not had the chance to investigate myself.

I think Cold Front is the new winner here. Necro, Cold Front all over the place now almost in the 5th week of the patch. I’m going to try it.

Seriously hunters dont need anymore damage buffs.

Dead last in raid and M+ and 20% behind the leaders of both is fine.

Obviously a skill issue.

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(PVP perspective)
Here we go again another …

By the time they’re ready to nerf over performers, (holy priest), they’re gonna hit us with the.

“We don’t want to punish players who have worked so hard on copying and pasting what they read on a website.”

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