Atleast you understand.
No that is restating the projection of the issue being thrown at me. Its part of rhetoric, I wouldn’t expect you to understand. You’ve hurled every fallacy you could at me in the past hour.
My dude, you’re the one confused here. The fact that there are more keys done now than ever proves pretty objectively that m+ is not bleeding players. You took my reference to that and said this:
You’re either confused, or tired enough of this discussion that you’re just casting nonsense in random directions for funsies.
I’m legitimately unsure which one it is at this point.
They understand the sentiment. I underatand the sentiment. Noone understands what you’re saying, yourself included, I’m guessing. It’s a load of nonsense that basically adds up to “M+ bad, me want do keys like MDI and they’re meanie toxicheads for not inviting me to every group.”
Projecting?
Like someone as an example projecting their insecurities on everyone else to have content removed because they don’t have the skill for it?
I am doing it right?
Completion of keys doesn’t necessarily equate to a higher population of players participating.
Not really. But then again I am arguing with what five people simultaneously? Make sure you enjoy your band wagon, and other false equivalencies while you’re ahead.
translation: I want to fail up.
Hey capslock.
I got a question for you.
I don’t mythic raid. Should mythic raid be removed because I don’t do it even though you do? Would you settle for a 2 week heroic clear every season if I was so insecure about you raiding mythic?
This is just a question based off the current conversation.
There’s no reason to believe everyone suddenly had a MASSIVE uptick in free time to do keys (which would be required in order not only compensate for a hemorrhaging player population, but to beat previous records in spite of it) so I’d say yes, it very likely equates to that.
I’d be having this discussion with you whether others agreed with me or not. Insulting me because others agree with what I’m saying says a lot more about you than the “toxic” m+ players you’re railing against.
I know quite a few people who would stay subbed for a lot less time if this went through.
Agreed.
Was just curious on a perpective of a mythic raider relating to current topic.
It’s not the game’s fault people don’t want to put in the effort required to see the content anymore.
Content accessibility has been pushed too far and has lead to apathy. Everyone can see all the content, so people don’t think that effort is required anymore.
Definitely not an insult.
DF is down by 63% of players currently. Larger than BFA or most others. People see no reason to stay.
citation needed.
the the dungeon be the dungeon.
no need for timer.
wowprogress.com has it at 62.40%
Not the same, but you can push to whatever your highest achievable level is in both, or you can play more casually in both.
Surely, with alllllll the complaints we have, just from GD alone that group of friends could be in the hundreds or higher easily. No meta comps, no rude people, just a community of chill folks running first come, first served groups. All they have to do is bother to talk to each other. (Funny how they’ll agree with each other’s posts all the time, but never share a bnet or community or even discord to get exactly the playstyle they want…
yep. basically.
Thats how I run it, when I am running. You won’t see that usually though, not even for higher keys.
I find most people end up quitting at some given point, and the friends list has to be cleared regularly.
how do you use that data to calculate retention?