Untimed M+ but before you flame me there are competitive aspects too

[Munze-proudmoore]

@Dottinthots-bleeding-hollow

I wouldn’t call it challenging, because if you’re dead, there is no challenge.

Challenge requires a means to resist

The means to resist is properly navigating the mechanic.

That’s like saying there’s no challenge in killing a raid boss, you just have to reduce its health to 0.