The last thing we need is the delay of cross faction play any longer
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA you think the top players in the world are doing it wrong because they dont play nelf??? Andybrew literally plays a panda, he could play that on alliance if he wanted to omg you are bringing tears to my eyes
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Hey at least you are having a good day. Now hopefully we can share that good day with belfs
How about no, if they want good racials they can play another race or switch factions. Belves donât deserve or need good things.
Lol. Well good sir thankfully you are not a dev sir. And if you are, please reconsider, the belfs will appreciate it.
Get rid of this thread. belf is in a fine spot. The fact that you cant figure that out on your own is seriously atrocious. They talk about dh brain and how every dhâs rating is inflated but damn I didnt know it was this bad.
You probably tell group lead that you cant belf the fear boys in KR and that it would be better to just skip them lol
Thankfully you arenât one as well.
The belves should be discouraged to play their horrible race and play another better, race tyvm.
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EllesmĂȘre, the #1 Hpal IIRC, ran Mistweaver in M+.
On stream has said that Belf Racials are better in live keys then Nelf Racials.
Especially this season with the Awakended Affix has significantly reduced the value of Shadowmeld cause of obelisks and the only reason why they still use Nelf in MDI is because its more time efficient to skip all 4 obelisks and just kill them on boss then it is to kill them separately which you canât realistically do on 25âs because of the amount of damage they do.
But heâs clearly doing it wrong and being one of the best healers out there currently because they donât copy what they do in the MDI on keys 4-5 levels higher. How stupid of him.
Dude if this guy was a dev the game would be so trash lol
Yeah this guy has a hard on for nelf racial because he doesnt know how to use his AT correctly lol
Sigh. Well you have failed to argue why Nelfs can have full room skips and belfs cannot have their aoe silence back. I know you disagree but if you think you made a convincing argument then you should walk away and have a good day because this topic wont. Thanks babe 
Words mean nothing when compared to actual action. Action taken was that they used Nelfs and not belfs in the mdis. If the reference was only for pug keys I would still disagree based on my experience and what I have seen on live. Maybe shes only running with the same 4 people that optimize everything else in the dungeon so it edges out .1% for her but just because she said it does not make it a fact. Lets see how many of her runs were actually with the mythical â5 belfsâ while most likely most of them did not have that
And the action taken in the ladder was that no one plays nelf.
Just checked the top alliance run in the world - there was one on the front page. Their mage played human hahahaha.
I have told you, that no one does night elf skips. For the majority of the population who ever play wow, 0.000000000000000000000000001% of them will ever do a night elf skip.
100% of people who have a belf interrupt will use it. So the people doing a +10 cant do a night elf skip, but they sure can grab a group of mobs and use their aoe silence on them!
you let me know how many teams youâve seen on live doing a night elf skip lol.
Ellesmere is a dude and plays a belf? You are out of touch. The fact that you could get to 2100 io is an atrocity to the game
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Meh what do i care about gender is that all you see? Is io all you see? Do I need to follow the twitter of every streamer you know or I am totally out of touch? Is that the Standard?
No youâre out of touch because you believe that nelf is better than belf. Youre out of touch because you just literally said the top people in the world who are timing keys 150x harder than yours are idiots because theyre not using nelf when they literally min max everything.
Care to tell me where in a +25 you could use a night elf skip that couldnt be done with vanish or shroud or obelisk? Just one example please
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Just peeked at the second highest alliance team. They play with a prot pally - cant be nelf. they also play with a human hunter⊠hmmmm⊠they must be idiots i guess, even though theyve done a 26 UR
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When did I ever say that 5 Belfs were required?
To do MDI strats you need 5 nelfs, that means no Hpal, no RShamn.
Ellesmere runs with a Pandaren War, Troll Mage, Belf Rogue and Belf DH (But thats a given). They themselves run as a Belf Hpal. When pushing very very high keys you stick with the same people.
Same way that Football teams are generally the same 20 - 25 people.
Or high preforming paintball teams are the same people.
Or the Professional CSGO teams are the same people.
Sticking with the same group of people to push very high content is nothing new. So I donât really know why this was brought up?
As Iâve said before, nelf racial is powerful when it comes to skipping. The less you skip, the less value comes from the racial. At 24+, you donât skip much outside of what you skip using the obelisks. Even high alliance M+ doesnât skip more then 1 of the obelisks.
MDI is running at 19, 4-5 levels lower then what most of these groups are pushing. Killing all 4 obelisks on last boss is incredibly difficult, especially at 19. But its more time efficient, but isnât required in order to time the key which is why you donât see anyone doing it outside of the MDI.
Anyway, its been a discussion, but it seems that you are set in your ways and using MDI as the only tool of balance so I shall take my leave. Take care 
Where did I call them idiots? Thats quite the accusation to make. Please show me.
You make some valid points but the reason for using the mdi is simple. Blizzard has used the mdi and Mythic Zul as justification to nerf belfs. So i am trying to argue that if they are fine with the nelfs running all over every other class in the mdis they should be fine with changing and tuning belfs to the prior glory. My approach is using Blizzards prior logic to argue that the logic has been changed with the clear âokayâ they gave for nelfs in the mdis. I would like this new philosophy of letting Racials stay impactful to return to belfs as the original reason for nerfing is no longer a factor
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Quotes again?
Boy you guys sure love them.
Heâs trolling.
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LOL.
I would like you to tell me one example. Just one, of a skip in a 25 that absolutely requires 5 nelves and could never in a million years be done by a rogue with vanish, shroud, or obelisk.
They didnt nerf it solely because of MDI. They nerfed it because it was absolutely broken for any group of belfs doing a 10, and was also busted in pvp. There are no groups of nelves doing skips at +10 are there?