Unpopular Opinion: I think LFR should be Changed

It’s not meant to teach mechanics. If people are going into LFR with the intention of learning mechanics for normal, they’re doing it wrong.

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Pruning and lack of content during WOD.
Pruning in Legion.
Same ole content in BFA from Legion.

Probably a more likely cause…

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“I have no evidence and since you called me on it Im going to have to deflect now…thanks”

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People complaining about LFR killing the game is every bit as reasonable as saying t-mogging is killing it. As far as the amount of people calling for LFR to be removed? It is an easy troll topic as you are proving.

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Love the fact im almost in all warfront gear yet LFR is still focused on here the most lol the irony!

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Absolute CONJECTURE, son, until you SHOW US the numbers of people who SAY they quit BECAUSE of LFR.
Face it…youre acting on sheer emotion here.
You have NO REAL basis for the claim that LFR CAUSED sub drops.
Sorry.

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The issue comes up when they run into situations like KJ, Maiden or even G’huun where you actually need to adhere to some kind of mechanic.

I say it sets people up for failure for that reason as well as luring people into a false sense of not having to do anything and relying on determination stacks to get through.

They need to make a decision to either make mechanics matter or just flatout remove them. Having both causes confusion and frustration.

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There are many, many things causing this. The fact that the game is 14 years old and people can get bored, etc, etc.

It isn’t just one main thing causing subs to drop. In my opinion (and feel free to disagree with me), I think Bliz’s stance on flight is what started a chain of events to happen that are leading to the drop. But we also started losing subs right after LK because to a lot of people, they “beat” the game and WC ended for them after Arthas was defeated.

Quite honestly there’s a lot of reasons WoW is losing subs. A very small percentage of it has to do with LFR. Sorry, but I honestly think your opinion on LFR really is a minority.

As some others have stated: LFR is why raiding still exists. Bliz has flat out stated this before. Otherwise we’d probably be doing scenario’s at this point to beat the bad guys.

(Guys: I figured out how to quote finally :smiley::smile:)

Pruning yes, but pruning in service of what?

An easier, “more accessible” game

Which LFR provides

LFR is a culprit too, like why is it so hard to fathom? If people can push a button to queue and Faceroll to get loot, that means less incentove to do normal content, which means less recruits for guilds, which means raiding suffers, meanwhile LFR heroes suffer a boring play experience devoid of challenge and social interaction which makes them more likely to quit. This isn’t rocket science. There are knock-on effects of everything in this game.

Just another version of exactly the same thread that’s been created 100 times by people. You know you’re advocating to remove something that would harm the game. You know you’re advocating for something that’s not going to happen.

You’re just doing it to stir the pot.

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You have no proof it didnt just talk about the subject rather then going in a circle.

I refuse to believe you think this is logical.

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the more interesting question is…How many times do we see posters crying to have LFR removed while they are PARTICIPATING in LFR.

VERY curious hypocrisy.
I hope you understand why we cant take you seriously .
(hides profile)

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For Pete’s sake, why does it bother you how i have fun.

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LOL. Where’s your proof that LFR has helped Blizzard retain customers? Why is “LFR funds mythic” the null hypothesis? Because you want it to be true? Because Daddy Blizzard told you it was?

There’s no correlation between sub count and LFR.

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Throwing out that sub number proven false I see…I swear elitists have to be the saltiest people I’ve come across in this community. Quit crying because you cant be a special snowflake and feed your unwarranted self importance anymore. To reiterate,spewing a debunked sub count ISN’T going to help your little anti casual narrative and it isnt gonna get streamer trash senpai to notice you. Alienating and gatekeeping the majority to appease a salty minority who gets their jimmies rustled at people they deem “unworthy” of getting gear and content is stupid. Only thing that needs to be removed and shut down without mercy are these anti casual threads. Stop being selfish and trying to take content away.

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LFR isn’t supposed to teach raiding. Guilds who raid are supposed to teach raiding.

LFR is intended for a different group of people, i.e. not the ones who do normal plus.

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So YOUR claim is that Blizzard KNOWS that LFR CAUSING sub drops yet insists on keeping it anyway?
:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Even if there was, there still isn’t a causal link between the two. Also I’m pretty sure Blizzard has said that raid participation is up on all difficulties post LFR’s introduction.