Unpopular Opinion: I think LFR should be Changed

What? Since when?

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Another “I don’t like something so it should be removed” thread, while having zero impact on your daily life.

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my problem with LFR is that it devalues raids, if you’ve played pre-lfr you’d know that entering a raid, seeing certain bosses, or reaching certain parts of the raid was a big deal, there was a meaning + weight to the bosses/world because these mobs were a big deal, and reaching these places required skill, gear, and coordination, now it’s like you can see them for free and they don’t feel like special content or as much of a threat, they become a node for you to cast your abilities on and then leave after queing for them in orgrimar, that feeling of specialness there was to face a boss was diminished

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LFR isn’t there to teach raiding. It is there as an alternate endpoint to the story so those people who aren’t interested in Raiding can finish the story.

If you’re a progression raider then LFR isn’t for you. If you do LFR and gain an interest in Raiding, then you will probably ask questions in your guild and learn how to raid in Normal. If you’re interested in raiding and not in a guild, you will probably seek one out.

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When have you ever seen someone quit WoW because “LFR is too easy! Increase LFR difficulty! I’m not challenged enough with LFR!” ?
Normal, Heroic, and Mythic exist for a reason.

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Could it be lack of content? I know a lot of people who left and are planning to comeback when 8.1 drops. The reality is, most who dislike LFR just don’t do it, try that instead of blaming LFR for subscription losses.

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Do we also need to accept all the hideous knock-on effects of LFR, Green Text? Like death of guilds, loss of community, loss of subs contributing to a gloomy future for the game?

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New forums, same old topics…

I use LFR to know what im in for if i have a crack at normal, so i see the value in it. If you dont like it, dont do it, and stop telling everyone else how they should be having fun

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It was never intended to teach people how to raid, it is there to give the casual players a taste of raid content and to see the story line fully. There is zero reason to remove it as long as you can so easily get similar if not better caliber gear from equally easy activities. I mean WTF are warfronts teaching anyone?

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This is the only opinion that I can agree with so far. Some of the posts so far, have been nothing but attacks on my unpopular opinion. My argument was that LFR doesn’t teach anything and I think it should be a challenge at first and get easier as wipes happen.

I agree with Cyouskin with LFR is ment to be completed and that makes sense to me. I just don’t like how faceroll.

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LFR doesn’t kill guilds. Premade Group did that.

CRZ and sharding killed the community.

Loss of subs was too many radical changes that nobody liked.

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If you can’t feel special enough accomplishing raids in mythic then that sounds like a you problem.

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No but I seen lot of people quit because “Game is boring and doesn’t hold my interest anymore,” which, maybe it would if you were participating in moderately challenging content and engaging in social interaction with other people?

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my problem with LFR is that it devalues raids, if you’ve played pre-lfr you’d know that entering a raid, seeing certain bosses, or reaching certain parts of the raid was a big deal

It was a big deal because only a tiny percentage of players ever got to do those things. That’s why LFR was brought in.

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LFR isn’t causing that lol.

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Yeahhhhh it is.

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You mean like raiding on literally any other Difficulty?
LFR already does get easier with every wipe.

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All of these “knock-on effects” have more to do with cross-realm grouping overall and not just LFR. The server is the community. Over the years the server has been removed from the equation. You don’t have to interact with your server at all anymore. You just PUG the content through dungeon finder and Looking for Group. The people that LFR is designed for are those who won’t make the migration from dungeon finder to LFR. People like myself. I have no interest in building a Mythic+ key or my RaiderIO score. I have no interest in joining a PUG for a raid. The only thing I use the Looking for Group tool for are those Elite Rare World Quests and the occassional World Boss. I have no interest in any other group at this time.

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How does it make WoW a worse RPG?

Legit question, you can’t just toss out something like that without backing it up.

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Sorry, but if you want to talk about ideas that jeopardize the RPG elements of WoW, LFR is low down on a very, very long list.

Bring back the original talent trees.
Get rid of (or at least severely nerf) scaling.
Bring back the original Artifact Weapon system (before they nerfed it for the people who did all their grinding in the first two weeks)
Get rid of Azerite.
Get rid of Titanforging.
Bring back gear vendors.
Bring back tier gear.
Bring back dungeon sets.
Bring back professions being useful.
Etcetera.

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