Unpopular Opinion: I don't Think MM is that OP

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Nothing wrong with that!

I’d argue it’s Rogue and Feral’s job to deal with MM hunters in the backline.
If MM Can shoot you then they can also shoot other MM. Your team is being bad by not dealing with the major threats.

Don’t yell at us innocent hunters who are trying to feed our families through war and sniper shots… yell at your DK’s for not gripping, Hunters for not killing, Rogue for not disarming/smoke bombing, Ferals for not killing the enemy hunters.

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They’re a gimmick.

OP when it works, dead in the water when it doesn’t.

Which is probably why they haven’t been nerfed. Blizz doesn’t care about BGs, and in PvE MM isn’t anything amazing so yeah

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I agree.

The unfortunate problem is that you may not get a Rogue on your team (since it’s random), and even if you do, they’d have to be smart enough to sit them MMs when they pop out of stealth.

Even then, with the amount of MMs appearing in BGs, a Rogue could be easily targeted by one of the other MMs and taken out.

No, but Blitz Brawl will be getting a real rating system soon.

So the “we suck in arena” excuse will no longer hold.

Only reason hunters aren’t top dog in arena is because of the LOS from pillars.

Yea, but a rogue has both cloak and evasion to help take out a hunter.

Cloak for the magic attacks and evasion for the physical attacks.

But the hunter will be back into the fight before the 2 minute cooldowns recycle for the rogue. So in the end, the hunters will continue pwning more than they get pwnd. That’s why they are almost alaways top damage and best kill to death ratio.

Put aimed shot and rapid fire in a shool of magic like arcane and a lot of problems can be solved.

Warriors could spell reflect a shot.

Shamans can ground totem a shot or two.

Classes with ranged counters against spells can now counter a hunter shot.

See where I’m going with this? Give us more ways to counter the obscene damage. Then I’d be able to use my kickbot on all those raid fires and sniper shots!

Cloak can also be talented to work against physical attacks. And, they can disarm the hunter as well if running that talent. Along with all of the CC they have, a hunter has to survive through all of those cooldowns to even have a chance at beating a rogue.

On the flip side if a rogue doesn’t have all of those cooldowns then they get killed pretty easily.

It would be interesting to see official data on kill to death ratios. MM hunters should be miles ahead of the other specs.

removed

turtle n gg

btw sniper shot nerfs on tues

You can turtle some of it, but that is a pretty long chain of the hunter not getting to do much that they have to get through.

Removed in TWW, you mean?

no start of ssn it will cleer bleeds but no immun anymoar

cept its a bg so there teammates now kill the rogue/feral who opened behind enemy lines

hunter still haz trinket, wall, fd wall, heel, ice trap, tar trap + disengage, scatter, knock, n so on

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I know they made changes, but it still counters a lot of stuff. I pre-cloaked a kidney shot just a few days ago.

Yes, I was thinking of a 1v1 but I have had a few team fights where a rogue was sitting on my nootz preventing me from doing damage while my team was playing in first person view mode or something.

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Yes, which is why a hunter can kill the rogue after they get through all of the cooldowns that counter the above. :wink:

freezing counter by cloak
knockback countered by shadowstep
roots countered by talented cloak or vanish

Sub rogues are much harder than outlaw or assassination for the obvious reasons.

etc, etc

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i thott we were talkin bout this witch is unabashed hunter apologism by fotmer

anyway nerfs comin to sniper shot rang n dmg on tues but prolly wont deter the 10.000 new mm in bgs

Thanfully.

You take that back!

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FotM rerolls maybe? I think given equal skill, most anyone has a decent chance vs. an MM if they can LoS. Or some classes may be able to run away and survive. I just hate how MMs cry so much about their ‘lack of defensives.’

It’s just that is everyone is just going to afk and lazily dps and not worry about anything else, the MMs are going to win. It’s just easier to do the damage.

In a rated setting, all things equal there are 6 meta specs that can do as much or more damage than MM. All with better survivability and utility.