Are you really Arguing with me that my class is fine because I do 40 more DPS then a retribution? Or is your basis that my class is actually good, the fact that Ibeat frost mage in damage? What would I play in a Pve scenario besides fury?
As it stands right now, fury and arms are at the very bottom. Arms is literally the very bottom. And fury only beats one pve spec, ret, by the tiniest margin. Or maybe I should play prot? You understand that prot warrior is about 2 expansions behind prot paladin right? every tank in the game is to be fair. . Do you have an alternative other than retribution that would be a very strong and viable spec? Oh, it actually turns out that you can play the very best tank and healer in the entire game for the entirety of the expansion from beginning to end at any time. Not only that, you decided to type out a response to me to argue that my specialization is good, because it beats only PVP specs, and your spec, which provides haste, 3 percent crit, replenishment, raid wall, aura mastery, and about six useful blessings.
How strong a spec used to be can’t really be used to talk about it’s current or future balancing.
That depends on the context. Paladin was king of heroics and trash pulls, but Druid was pretty significantly better at being a boss tank.
But not by enough that it actually matters in any real sense outside of speed runner guilds and the people that blindly follow that group building strategy.
The random boomer that builds a 10man group will follow the optimal group building composition. Why would you do it any other way unless you’re truly desperate.
Oh so you’re saying eventually, instead of looking for a frost dk, or extra caster, he will eventually, take the warrior. But we’re getting into semantics that doesn’t matter,
Telling me that my clsss is viable becuase I’ll eventually be taken becuase they can’t find what they want doesn’t help anyone’s stance. Point is this guy typed that my class is fine becuase I do more dps that a frost mage and sub rogue.
I’m better than 97 percent of warriors, warriors above 90 percent either don’t sunder, or have help from another warrior, I also am full bis besides runestone. Any warrior below 90 percent will be dead last, or damn well near it.
I want to agree with you dude, but evidence just doesn’t lie, they at the botto, with 2 other equally bad specs. It’s looking kid of grim, if other classes continue to scale better or on par with warriors. They will continue to be eclipsed in all three specs by something else that does it better. Only reason they exist in any raid is becuase people would play warriors even if they did 3k dps
It isn’t. It’s perfectly useable, and better players at the bottom specs do very competitive damage in their guilds.
The real difference between them is pretty damn narrow, and the differences largely don’t matter because even trading one of the worst DPS class for the best is almost never going to matter in practice.
This is a disgusting take and anyone liking your post should be looked into by moderators for supporting it. It’s basically trolling at this point.
I didn’t play warrior in vanilla nor TBC.
So I get 3.75 bad phases out of 4 because of past warriors? In both specs?
Go love yourself.
Smeet: Ret paladins were perfectly ‘usable’ and players could have done Algalon with them, no question at all. They weren’t buffed because they weren’t ‘viable’. They were buffed because rets cried the loudest and they have the highest class population.
you should have known warriors weren’t op in wotlkc. reroll if you have to be #1, which you probably can’t do anyway regardless. maybe go back to som2 lol
All you do is have bad takes, try to hmu every time you post on the forums so I can go to that post and tell apologize to people for having to read what you say. 7 specs right now over 25 percent less than the top. They need a little push. You haven’t even done ulduar so kinda hard to have an opinion.
Even blizzard knew this citing multiple times that warriors were meant to be weak early and scale late. They said when they buffed ret the goal was to put them in line with warriors to start and while warriors would scale into being strong ret would have value through utility.
This is all been explained to the letter, but they’re holding onto that security blanket of “theyve changed their minds before!”
They may, but since they think they’ll scale well it’s safe to say warriors won’t be touched beyond munching changes until they see sufficient data in those later phases
Warrior was made back in classic and did one motel core, then I quit classic, then came back tbc. So I didn’t make the warrior during wotlk to be op. So you’re wrong there.
Complaining about class balance = crying? Okay got it. I did however point out that they’re not op, I pointed out that we bring only one buff, that being commanding shout which is exclusive to us. That makes us not coveted in raid scenarios. Some guilds WILL choose to bring one. Meanwhile multiples mages, locks,dks, rogues, and now even ferals. So you’re wrong there.
You said the only thing I care about is being on top of the meter, well, that does give me a little bit of a dopemine hit, but I’m truly advocating for class balance across the board. I play ret/warrior/ele/boomkin. And I parse/play better than every player on this thread, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to notice the obvious flaw. So you’re wrong there? I can’t simultaneously want warriors to be at the top and then raid on ele and complain I’m getting beat by warriors??
Blizzard said they don’t intend to balance classes phase after phase. Which basically means they won’t do their job as a game developer, and I’m bringing this to light.
I made a dk tank to play dk tank. I knew it wouldn’t be the best, and I think prot pally needs nerfed, but I am not crying about it all day every day. jfc.
