Unplayable/unwanted

lol you are so funny, you know fury is not at the bottom. Just stop lying, you can go look at logs and easily see this is false. Now if you said arms or sub rogue I would have agreed but not fury, it is easily middle of the road to a little higher.

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I think this is what most warriors are advocating. Rebalancing has begun, it’d be categorically better for a round-robin system of balancing (as much as ret and ferals may not like it) so everyone gets a turn. Either that or revert all buffs/changes and let the chips fall where they may. But I think we’re too far gone for that.

I don’t accept warriors should just wait and cross their fingers. After all, rets and ferals didn’t have to when they were going to go up the dps meters in phase 3 and 4.

It’s not what you’re advocating for. Warriors don’t care at all about other specs. It’s just the argument they use to make their request sound sincere and valid, but after all the “but ret and feral!” Posts, and with how many times I’ve seen them say they should be the first to get those buffs we all know who it’s about.

Just own it, it sounds much better when you don’t drag around fake claims to sound legitimate. You’re in it for only you and nobody else

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Is that in question? Did you genuinely think that warrior buffs wouldn’t benefit me?

No no, I’m doing it out of pure altruism for warriors as a noble RPG spec. Of course there’s self interest in my desire to see warriors not be bottom-tier in everything.

That doesn’t make my arguments wrong. Your appeal to emotion has really fallen flat with me.

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:roll_eyes:

Oh come off it. In no way do I care to appeal to your emotion.

I’m calling out the BS for what it is

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Sounds like an appeal to emotion for me. You’re appealing to social acceptance to override the lack of logic in your argument.

Argue the point of warrior balance, or don’t argue at all. People will always advocate for positions beneficial to themselves.

Furthermore: It’s not even true I’m only arguing for myself, I genuinely believe that further balancing is the only way to maintain the health of the game now that it has started. Warriors are dropping off like flies and buffs might not even bring them back. My point is- Warriors are the best suited for a buff given the arguments I and other have put out several times.

The only argument anyone else seems to have is that warriors are “viable” and “fine”. They don’t suggest who should be buffed or nerfed in most cases.

Well you also asked if a statement with zero questions was a question. So I understand why you’re confused.

Jeez you have to go that far back? Either quote it or don’t mention it at all because I really don’t know what you’re referring to here.

There’s plenty more in my reply you could have discussed.

Wait, I said “Is that in question?” not “Is that a question?” I think this conversation has really gone above you man. Either that or English isn’t your first language.

For instance: I could say “Slicy it appears you don’t understand that phrase.”

In that sentence I am bringing your comprehension of my text into question even though I’m not asking a question.

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It was like 3 posts ago. Are you ok there bud?

Read my reply.

Linked it for you

Read my reply in full, again. Specifically this part:

Wait, I said “Is that in question?” not “Is that a question?” I think this conversation has really gone above you man. Either that or English isn’t your first language.

For instance: I could say “Slicy it appears you don’t understand that phrase.”

In that sentence I am bringing your comprehension of my text into question even though I’m not asking a question.

I’m bringing your medication into question. You seem extremely lost. My statement wasn’t overly complex.

I think warriors claims to care about other specs is a desperate attempt to sound valid and have some form of leverage. But they don’t, and they have none. I’d prefer if you were just honest and speak for yourselves instead of trying to drag others into your requests.

Go to ulduar, pick overall dps statistics, and look at the lowest performing, so called “pve spec” you will quickly find that it’s fury warrior.

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I agree, it was one of the simplest replies I think I’ve read in a while on this forum. And I am using the term “simple” derogatorily.

I’d love to continue discussing the matter, but I’d be scared you’d misinterpret most words or phrases I used to your own means.

Or I can charge by the hour for the English lessons.

90%

fury
ret
mm hunt
frost mage
bm hunter

A very common weapon that people who want warriors to be bad, is to quickly say “weren’t you good enough in vanilla”, as if to say that because warriors were so good in vanilla, they must be the very bottom now. In an attempt to battle that, now warriors have to say “a,b,c, me” needs buffed. To counter that, now you have started saying something just as dumb: saying something just as dumb

Ret’s rotation doesn’t change above 90% but fury’s does in ways that it doesn’t for the grand majority of players.

You show me a fury parse above ret in the 90th+ percentile that is sundering and shattering throwing, we’ll talk.

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So you’re saying fury warrior is in a good place, because the top 10 percent are better than ret pally? Why would you think to respond and say this?

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No dumb would be saying something like

“I think it’s time for frost mages, sub rogues and fury warriors to get buffs”

That would be a truly idiotic statement