Correct. But they said they won’t be changing them.
Maybe I misunderstood you here. Are you saying they should change the prices too if they add the unarmored version?
Correct. But they said they won’t be changing them.
Maybe I misunderstood you here. Are you saying they should change the prices too if they add the unarmored version?
I think we both misunderstand eachtoher.
They said that most likely thinking that there would be no armored/unarmored mounts and standardising the cost. Which in essence makes sense in their rationale. Though, Im pretty sure they were not thinking about the armored vs non armored debate.
The unarmored mount in vanilla was 1000 gold. So, having it 100 gold is effectively a change. So if they say they won’t be changing them, that means that, would they implement the same mounts, it’d be the same price.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the prices were always 1000 g for the unarmored version. So there is no way it will be 100 g. That change came in a later patch.
And the armored versions that will be in Classic as of right now will cost 1000 g per mount too.
If the unarmored mount is 1000 gold and stays to that price, it implies the armored one then changes from 100 to 1000 later which is effectively a change as well.
Yes, but that is happening the armored mounts will cost 1000 g which is not in line with their patch lineup.
From the classic demo, we learned that the riding system is the older race riding one, instead of the profession-esque system we have today in modern wow introduced in Patch 1.12.1. What was the train of thought behind this decision?
The modern riding system was introduced in one of the later 1.12 patches, and as we were discussing it, we felt this system was added to prepare the game for Burning Crusade, which had the ability to ride flying mounts.
For most of the history of WoW Classic, throughout 2004 and 2005, we had the older mount system. It just felt more authentic to that game, to use the older one instead of one that just laid the groundwork for another expansion.
Ah well then, it that case really, if its true, I guess it doesn’t matter as much. Quite surprised to hear that tbh as, for most of Vanilla, it was the opposite method of purchasing.
As long as they don’t change the gold cost mid-way I’ll be happy. I guess their stance on ‘‘things as they were in 1.12’’ has many inconsistencies.
Many inconsistency, Which is why people disagree with those who argue patches against these mounts.
It’d still mean a 4-5 months wait possibly to get armored mounts though but, I guess some people could live with that. Many however would find it unfortunate to have such a wait.
Some people will clear Molten Core in a ~week and will be very unfortunate for them to wait for Blackwing Lair.
Really? Allow me to quote tgat poster:
That sure sounds oo me an attack against the character of someone that opposes unarmored mounts by implying that they only oppose unarmored mounts to keep others from having them.
Unfortunate to wait seems a lot easier to swallow than unfortunate to never have an opportunity imo.
Which is what that Fallannaa (sp) character admitted to. I suppose it make some people cautious.
The unarmored mounts were in fact different items. The unarmored mounts were not removed from game, although there was the optional quest to upgrade them. However, the old item is still present in game to this day. The unarmored mounts “final version” so to speak, is the unarmored mount.
The armored mounts were not available in the first 5.5 months of Vanilla, but after that they were included and you could swap the unarmored for an armored. Following that system doesn’t remove armored mounts from the game at all, it just time gates them. At no point would including unarmored mounts actually “remove” armored mounts from being a thing. At worst, someone might have to wait a few extra months to exchange their mount. Or, they could include both armored and unarmored at launch, and only remove the unarmored 5.5 months in. I dunno, there’s lots of options that don’t include removing something Vanilla from Classic.
Including the Unarmored mounts wouldn’t affect the riding system we have in game. They’ve said we’ll have the 1000g mount and 100g riding training, which is authentic to Vanilla as well. When unarmored mounts were in game, they cost 1000g. The mounts/training prices were changes in 1.12.1 (I believe), which means that we get the old school costs until we theoretically get BC. Essentially though, the mount price change was not associated with the introduction of armored mounts.
Just my two cents, which is essentially a recap of the last 35 posts anyhow. I appreciate the civility of the previous exchanges btw
“It’s a change to not have unarmored mounts. It’s ok to change other things, though, if those changes allow me to have my desired shiny.”
It’s also a change to not have unarmored mounts at all.
We all know there are going to be changes. Classic isn’t going to be Vanilla, and that’s ok. What we want is for the changes to be logically consistent. The current reason for no unarmored mount isn’t consistent with their other changes. Making the mounts BoP would be a very minor change that could make the rest of the game more realistic, and ease the concerns of people buying mounts to sell later, as opposed to leaving the mounts out entirely, which is a major change.
Some people will argue “This is a change and unacceptable” when what they really mean is “changes other than those that will help me get what I want are unacceptable”.
Sorry but you have no clue what your talking about. Very obvious you weren’t around during the original years of WoW and know nothing about unarmored mounts.
This has nothing to do with costs, nor is there any advantages for players who lvl up to 60 within the 5-6 months (which is very easy to do even for a casual player).
There is nothing that makes anything more expensive for casual players.
Just another “band wagon” poster who couldn’t be bothered to actually read up and understand the actual issue.
I’m all for no changes, but I understand why some need to be made. I just want consistency in reasoning. I’d like to be able to say “yeah that makes sense” when they announce why some thing was changed, even if I’d rather see it in game.
You can read that into what people say if you want, but most everyone here has been pretty reasonable. I think most of us hoping for this change also hope for other changes that blizzard has said no to even if we have no dog in the fight. For instance, I was very happy to see the RPPVP servers roll out, even though I would never touch one with a ten foot pole.